Who really killed JFK

[BadCompanyOU]

We know LHO pulled the trigger, question is do you believe he acted alone? :les:

[zevogolf]

I visited Arlington National Cemetary this Fall and was at his Family burial grounds, at the bottom of the hill from Robert E Lee's homestead!!! It is very strange that the remaining documents pertaining to his death have not been released to the public. I don't know what is there for the government or the Kennedy family, or what's left of it, to be afraid of.....

[heff]

Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.

[azwe]

Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left. Back, and to the left.

This is enough proof that the shooter was located behind JFK.

[bushmaster06]

We know LHO pulled the trigger, question is do you believe he acted alone? :les:
How did Oswald make the head shot when he was supposed to above and behind to the right of the motorcade? Ballistics would show that entry was made in the frontnof the head since the back of kennedy's head was blown out. When the Dallas PD rushed the depository building they noted that oswald was drinking a coke in the first floor break room, not sweating or out of breath from his supposed record-breaking run down 6 flights of stairs. Did you know that there's storm drain down the street from where the motorcade was that offered a near perfect head-on view of Kennedy sitting on his car?

[KCRuf/Nek]

wow, youve solved the puzzle. yeah, and theres an overpass, a fence, and half a dozen other places where g gordon liddy or one of the other tramps did it. the kill shot was from behind. watch the film(and not jfk). in almost 50 years there hasnt been any solid and credible evidence to prove otherwise. people love a conspiracy. sometimes they just dont want to believe such a simple act has such a simple answer - one man killed the president. a man in a cave brought down the towers. sometimes things happen.

[bushmaster06]

wow, youve solved the puzzle. yeah, and theres an overpass, a fence, and half a dozen other places where g gordon liddy or one of the other tramps did it. the kill shot was from behind. watch the film(and not jfk). in almost 50 years there hasnt been any solid and credible evidence to prove otherwise. people love a conspiracy. sometimes they just dont want to believe such a simple act has such a simple answer - one man killed the president. a man in a cave brought down the towers. sometimes things happen.
If the kill (head) shot was from behind, how does the body fall backwards, into the path of said bullet? How does the brain matter erupt from the back o the skull? Do you know physics at all?

[OU Sam]

The mob whacked JFK. Why else would Jack Ruby have shot Oswald. Joe Kennedy made a deal with the mob to deliver the union vote and election fraud that got JFK elected. Then JFK lets his brother Robert, the Attorney General go after the mob and corrupt Union leaders like Jimmie Hoffa. Whether there was any other shooter than Oswald doesn't matter JFK is still dead. Back then you didn't double cross the mob.

[OUQuakers]

I've always felt that LHO probably did it himself but might have interrupted another attempt.. JFK had a lot of enemies, Dallas was a shooting gallery.

[bushmaster06]

Let's not forget Castro was a little pissed that JFK tried to have him bumped off.

[zevogolf]

I will wait untill ALL documents are released before concluding anything!!!!

[oorah_okie]

Oswald acted alone. Get over it.

[oucub23]

It's damn near impossible to discern fact from fiction about the assassination anymore.

[phead903]

I read the other day where Caroline Kennedy - Schlossberg has stipulatd that Jackie's outfit she was wearing that day can't be examined until 100 years after Jackie's death, which will be in 2105 (I think). I wonder if there are more family documents that are sealed that the public will never see (or at least not for a very long time).

[Van Hammersly]

Someone (I think Discovery) did a really good documentary a few years ago that pretty much disproved all of the Oliver Stone myths. They showed how the 'magic bullet' actually made sense if you see how the seats were arranged in the car. They also did a bunch of gun shot tests with ballistic dummies to test the 'back and to the left' theory.

[SoCaliSooner]

LHO did it....but it was facilitated by the mob, specifically the Campisi's. This I know because my wife is a Campisi.

[zevogolf]

LHO did it....but it was facilitated by the mob, specifically the Campisi's. This I know because my wife is a Campisi.
What else has she told you??? Anything on Marilyn Monroe???

[SoCaliSooner]

LHO did it....but it was facilitated by the mob, specifically the Campisi's. This I know because my wife is a Campisi.
What else has she told you??? Anything on Marilyn Monroe???
I have heard bits and pieces from her grandfather. The Italian mob really was pissed off at him and bobby for using them for votes, money and then turning around and making them public enemy #1. He gets going on a rant and then just stops talking and changes the subject.

[NAMLOOT]

If SoCali never posts again, we all know why. Nobody likes a snitch.

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[CatchHERintheRye]

What is rather weird, is that earlier Presidents traveled in secured vehicles, then all of a sudden, someone decided it was "safe" for Presidents to ride out in the open. WTF!

[bushmaster06]

What is rather weird, is that earlier Presidents traveled in secured vehicles, then all of a sudden, someone decided it was "safe" for Presidents to ride out in the open. WTF!
the secret service "forgot" the plexiglass bubble for the limo.

[zevogolf]

"forgot"?? Sounds like a good excuse if you want someone killed. I have even heard that an agent killed him accidentally....

[OkieforOU]

Probably doesn't mean much but I read a book by a Canadian Jew who was in Mossad. Part of their training at that time was to analyze the Kennedy assassination. He said he could care less who killed John Kennedy but he doubted that Oswald did it. He said that any assassin always takes his best shot. Oswald's best shot was when the car was coming towards him and slowed to turn the corner. He also said that the shot that Oswald purportedly made was a very difficult shot. He said he questioned trained shooters in the Mossad who said they would not have taken that shot. The odds were too high against it.


I'm like him, I don't much care who killed Kennedy. I just want to find the aliens that kidnapped my Mom while she was pregnant with me. lol.


Very likely it was Oswald that did the deed, even though Kennedy did have a lot of enemies.
Just food for thought. Probably one of Kennedy's biggest enemies that you never even hear mentioned are the Federal Reserve Governors. During his short time in office Kennedy ordered the government to print US Treasury certificates rather than Federal Reserve Notes. There was a ton of money riding on this, not to mention control of the US money supply. I'm sure a bunch of stuffy ol' bankers would never order a hit over a few trillion dollars AND control of the US economy though.

[TIMB0B]

Documentary put together with all nat sound footage.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yg0f_QHNSUw

[Muscletang]

Weird, all those post just....disappeared. Are USAO and Nuked behind the JFK assassination?

[soonerUthenMe]

wow really,wtf just happen?

[OrangeBlossom]

Move along, nothing to see here....

[soonerUthenMe]

Can i interest you in blanket laced with smallpox?

[oucub23]

Why did all that get deleted?

[OrangeBlossom]

It was spam. It wasn't deleted, just moved to the mod archives where we put spam posts.

[TIMB0B]

A theory I have never heard before:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YGxYjNvmBrE

[oucub23]

It was spam. It wasn't deleted, just moved to the mod archives where we put spam posts.

How spam? It was on topic, and no more 'out there' than anything ever posted by Catcher.

[soonerUthenMe]

I am not sure. I hope Blossom isn't upset with me. I was just yankin her chain lol

[Muscletang]

It was spam. It wasn't deleted, just moved to the mod archives where we put spam posts.

So you're in on it too huh?

http://i.imgur.com/zvHKt9z.png

[madbrad]

LHO did it....but it was facilitated by the mob, specifically the Campisi's. This I know because my wife is a Campisi.

Your pizza sucks ass

[OrangeBlossom]

How spam? It was on topic, and no more 'out there' than anything ever posted by Catcher.

Spam bots seek out threads that suit their purposes. Multiple lengthy posts with links included, by a newly registered poster whose IP is on several forum ban lists = spam and ban.

Not to mention that several of the images posted would have been removed, due to gore, no matter who posted it.

[OrangeBlossom]

I am not sure. I hope Blossom isn't upset with me. I was just yankin her chain lol

Of course not ;)

[htownSOONER]

LHO did it....but it was facilitated by the mob, specifically the Campisi's. This I know because my wife is a Campisi.

Is Corky still alive? Also, please bring me a pizza.

[OUSchitzo]

Oswald was a patsy. Any person who has any experience with a firearm questions the "approved" report. The shooter was in front of JFK.

[DHF]

I used to believe that Oswald did not act alone, but after reading Vincent Bugliosi's book on the assassination, I have no doubts that Oswald acted alone.

[KCRuf/Nek]

I used to believe that Oswald did not act alone, but after reading Vincent Bugliosi's book on the assassination, I have no doubts that Oswald acted alone.

He wrote an excellent book on the OJ trial also. It was the five things the state should have focused on and forgot all the other shit.

[JDShellnutt]

Are you kidding? LBJ was behind it! One of the most corrupt presidents ever.

[Stein7495]

Are you kidding? LBJ was behind it! One of the most corrupt presidents ever.

I think a faction in the government was behind it. A lot of theories point to him but I just have a hard time believing that the Vice President lead the plot to kill the President. Johnson probably knew about it but never acted to prevent it. The Johnson's and the Kennedy's didn't particularly get along, though...

[PokeJ]

Keith Hernandez did it. Or was it Ron Darling?


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[bruthaman]

I dont know. Im just glad it wasnt a black man.

[bruthaman]

Are you kidding? LBJ was behind it! One of the most corrupt presidents ever.

Whats with the white supremist avatar

[Stein7495]

Keith Hernandez did it. Or was it Ron Darling?


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Nice game pretty boy.

Easily one of my favorite episodes of Seinfeld.

[oucub23]

Whats with the white supremist avatar

What is his avatar of?

[Yuck Fu]

What's most important to note is that Oswald could have just as easily used a rock or a knife............................

[DRminimega67]

I've seen a ton of entrance and exit wounds. He was shot from the front. I think LHO had some part in it, but you can't argue with the physics of the GSW. There are too many things that do NOT make sense with this. I don't know who else was involved, be it CIA/mafia/Cubans, etc, but the Warren Commission's conclusions are BS. I'll be curious to see what the classified docs end up showing when they are released in 2039 (I think?). That is if I live that long or IF the govt actually releases the true documents.

[Muscletang]

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[KCRuf/Nek]

What's most important to note is that Oswald could have just as easily used a rock or a knife............................

Or his bare hands.

[JDShellnutt]

Whats with the white supremist avatar

How is it a white supremacist avatar?

[KCRuf/Nek]

How is it a white supremacist avatar?

Because he doesn't like it.

[JDShellnutt]

Because he doesn't like it.

I really dont give a shit what he thinks.
All white people are radical white supremacists in his eyes.
While he is the most racist person here by far.
Of course racism only counts when the person is white.

[KCRuf/Nek]

I really dont give a shit what he thinks.
All white people are radical white supremacists in his eyes.
While he is the most racist person here by far.
Of course racism only counts when the person is white.

Eggzackly.

[bruthaman]

I really dont give a shit what he thinks.
All white people are radical white supremacists in his eyes.
While he is the most racist person here by far.
Of course racism only counts when the person is white.

I dont care if you give a shit or not.
All white people are not white supremicists in my eyes.
Im not racist.
Racism in america has almost been exclusively the white man towards women and other races.
Your avatar is still a white supremist sign.

[oucub23]

Your avatar is still a white supremist sign.

How? What is it?

[SoCaliSooner]

What is his avatar of?

Any educated person can see that it's greek...for "come get them" or "come get" pronounced "Mo lone l'ahveh". It seems to have originated from the Battle of Thermopylae and king Leonidas against Xerxes and his persians....

It has nothing to do with racism or white supremacy...yet that has no bearing on bruthaman...

[Sooner 4 Life]

I dont care if you give a shit or not.
All white people are not white supremicists in my eyes.
Im not racist.
Racism in america has almost been exclusively the white man towards women and other races.
Your avatar is still a white supremist sign.

I find your avatar racist as well

[nolesooner]

I've seen a ton of entrance and exit wounds. He was shot from the front. I think LHO had some part in it, but you can't argue with the physics of the GSW. There are too many things that do NOT make sense with this. I don't know who else was involved, be it CIA/mafia/Cubans, etc, but the Warren Commission's conclusions are BS. I'll be curious to see what the classified docs end up showing when they are released in 2039 (I think?). That is if I live that long or IF the govt actually releases the true documents.

you have obviously not seen ALL the tests they have done with the exact same rifle with the exact distance and the exact positioning of Kennedys body in the limo. The shot from the back, during the testing, caused the EXACT same damage to the bodies made up of material very similar to human tissue and skull and bones. Kennedy was indeed shot from behind.

The front shot has no bearing at all. There were only three places to get a shot from the front. Both were on top of the bridge, and one was off to the side behind the fense. NONE of those places had a proper angle at the time of the kill shot. The places in front would have hit the man sitting in front of the POTUS and at the other position, the bullet would have hit the windsheild. If the kill shot came from behind the fense...the bullet would have hit kennedy in the face, and THEN killed his wife which was right next to him.

LHO was hired and Jack Ruby was hired to kill LHO. It's all mob related. It's really that simple.

[KCRuf/Nek]

I find your avatar racist as well

That's different.

[usaosooner]

Stay on topic

[oucub23]

you have obviously not seen ALL the tests they have done with the exact same rifle with the exact distance and the exact positioning of Kennedys body in the limo. The shot from the back, during the testing, caused the EXACT same damage to the bodies made up of material very similar to human tissue and skull and bones. Kennedy was indeed shot from behind.

The front shot has no bearing at all. There were only three places to get a shot from the front. Both were on top of the bridge, and one was off to the side behind the fense. NONE of those places had a proper angle at the time of the kill shot. The places in front would have hit the man sitting in front of the POTUS and at the other position, the bullet would have hit the windsheild. If the kill shot came from behind the fense...the bullet would have hit kennedy in the face, and THEN killed his wife which was right next to him.

LHO was hired and Jack Ruby was hired to kill LHO. It's all mob related. It's really that simple.

You had me, right up until your last 3 sentences.

[JDShellnutt]

Your avatar is still a white supremist sign.

How?

[nolesooner]

You had me, right up until your last 3 sentences.

hahaha...well forgive me. I watched about a days worth of documenteries on the subject about a month ago. It was my understanding that LHO was contacted by the mob...and the mob had other hit men in different cities. I believe that JFK was going on a motorcade in tampa or orlando (or maybe even Miami) about a week earlier and they cancelled it because they were getting threats about his assassination. The mob was ALL over him anywhere he went. The mob also had major ties to Jack Ruby who owned the club there in downtown dallas just a few blocks away from the jail where they were holding LHO. What kills me are the amount of coincidences that took place. If the car to pick LHO up had backed up to the appropriate place or been there on time, Ruby wouldn't have gotten his shot off. If the camera lights had not been so bright at the right time, the famous man in the jacket that was handcuffed to LHO would have noticed Ruby. So many other things! UGH!!!! I hate that LHO got shot!

NO, I don't think the whole thing is a consipiracy. I DO think that LHO acted because of the mob, but not necessarily Ruby. I think Ruby was very emotionally spent over JFK getting killed. I also believe (and I can't quite remember) he was the mob's front man in Dallas. If anything, the mob wanted LHO dead because he killed JFK, and then they wanted Ruby dead....which he DID die in prison while awaiting his appeal. Kinda crazy huh?

Either way the Zupruder film (sorry if I misspelled that) CLEARLY shows the exit wound was on JFKs right upper forehead....that only a shot from BEHIND him would have caused...and this after he was hunched over from getting shot in the neck. The magic bullet theory has been CLEARLY debunked because of the way that the people were positioned in the limo. JFK was higher and more on the outside of Governor Connally. Connally was lower and more towards the middle. The bullet hitting muscle tissue and bone cause it to twist slightly causing multiple entry and exit wounds at the places that were found in both men.

There is a photo from the opposite side of the fense where a supposed gunman would be, and the picture shows NO MAN behind the fense at all! Either that, or you would have had a 2 and a half foot midget somehow get a shot off with NOBODY seeing him. not likely whatsoever...and again, if he did shoot, he would have hit JFK's wife.

The particulars of the mob have me thinking that there are different scenarios. BUT one thing is certain! LHO had plenty of time to get from the floor that he shot JFK to the caffeteria that the police man saw him in. He was in VERY good shape. LHO would have had plenty of time to walk from the house he was staying at, to the police car...i believe it was a 15 minute walk and it was a mile or so...and there were three different ways he could have gone to get to the cop. They did a test with a man of similar height, weight and build and all this was measured. LHO was able to pull this off.

[oucub23]

Ruby died of cancer I think. He was very advanced when he shot LHO.

[Omega]

Kennedy was the last president to try and diminish the Federal Reserve's power....

just saying

[nolesooner]

Ruby died of cancer I think. He was very advanced when he shot LHO.

It was quite odd though from what I can remember. I mean there was never a mention of cancer before that I don't believe. Whether there is an actual connection we will probably never know. But we do know that LHO was obviously pro Castro as were ALL the monsters. Ruby was a mobster. Just seems so connected somehow. I have no doubt that the mob had other people in other cities to try and do this.

[tennsooner]

The three things that I don't understand and no one has ever told me in plain language that sounds reasonable is

1. Why didn't Oswald take the much easier shot before the motorcade turned?

2. How brains fly out of the back of his head if he was shot from behind.

3. If he was shot from behind shouldn't the exit wound have blown part of his face off?

[Sancho]

No mention of LBJ yet? Many think he had something to do with it.

[surus]

The three things that I don't understand and no one has ever told me in plain language that sounds reasonable is

1. Why didn't Oswald take the much easier shot before the motorcade turned?

2. How brains fly out of the back of his head if he was shot from behind.

3. If he was shot from behind shouldn't the exit wound have blown part of his face off?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzJQE8LYrQ

[Stein7495]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqzJQE8LYrQ

It truly amazes me how some people doubt conspiracy theorists on the assassination and that Oswald was a guy acting on his own. His head goes back and to the left, not forward and to the right. Another shooter had to be present.

:stoopspalm:

[DHF]

If the wound on the back right side of his head is an exit wound, where did the bullet enter?

[Morningwood]

The three things that I don't understand and no one has ever told me in plain language that sounds reasonable is

1. Why didn't Oswald take the much easier shot before the motorcade turned?

2. How brains fly out of the back of his head if he was shot from behind.

3. If he was shot from behind shouldn't the exit wound have blown part of his face off?

Not sure about 1, but to address 2 and 3: Brains didnt fly out the back of his head, as clearly seen on the zapruder film. Almost the entire upper-right part of his cranium flew open (towards the front, as a rear entry would cause to happen)

Start at :53 of the zapruder film posted above

[Morningwood]

It truly amazes me how some people doubt conspiracy theorists on the assassination and that Oswald was a guy acting on his own. His head goes back and to the left, not forward and to the right. Another shooter had to be present.

:stoopspalm:

Watch the slo-mo. His head does lurch forward when the bullet hits. Maybe the ensuing snap back to an upright position was caused by Jackie's left hand when she reacts (her hand is on his chest at that moment).

Or maybe it was caused by an involuntary muscle spasm. I'm sure weird physiological things happen when your brain is suddenly blasted apart. Who knows.

[Muscletang]

On their show Bullshit! Penn and Teller talking about the head. As the bullet leaves the head it takes a lot of brain matter with it. This ejection causes a push that made the head go back. A Nobel Prize Winner did a study to show it and they recreated it on the show.

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[KCRuf/Nek]

What is rather weird, is that earlier Presidents traveled in secured vehicles, then all of a sudden, someone decided it was "safe" for Presidents to ride out in the open. WTF!


the secret service "forgot" the plexiglass bubble for the limo.

JFK didn't want the bubble on the car. No one forgot it. He also wore that back brace which kept him upright after the first shot.

[surus]

Not sure about 1, but to address 2 and 3: Brains didnt fly out the back of his head, as clearly seen on the zapruder film. Almost the entire upper-right part of his cranium flew open (towards the front, as a rear entry would cause to happen)

Start at :53 of the zapruder film posted above

good, at least one other person watched the same footage as me. also, remember he's in a moving car, with the top down (off) anything as light as blood spatter will be blown back, by the wind.

why didn't oswald shoot before the motorcade turned? does it matter? he succeeded in what he was after.

[nolesooner]

The three things that I don't understand and no one has ever told me in plain language that sounds reasonable is

1. Why didn't Oswald take the much easier shot before the motorcade turned?

2. How brains fly out of the back of his head if he was shot from behind.

3. If he was shot from behind shouldn't the exit wound have blown part of his face off?

1) If LHO was to try and shoot him from the front before he turned the corner, he would have hit the glass...and ALL of the secret service would have been looking right his way. When you wait till someone is going away from you, the target is much steadier.

2) small pieces of brain flew off the back because the car was moving at 15 mph. That is another thing they did in those tests. You can see Mrs. JFK picking up pieces of brain on the back of the car. One eye wittness still alive today who was a boy saw inside of the car before the secret service covered it up and washed it. I believe he saw brain matter sprayed all against the back of the FRONT seats...and even pieces of skull up towards the front seat...and blood all in the front seat and windsheild.

3) the exit wound is on JFK's upper right side of his face/head. After he was shot in the neck he leaned down with his right ear more towards the sky which is why the exit wound is exactly where it's at....showing and proving that he was indeed shot from behind.

[nolesooner]

It truly amazes me how some people doubt conspiracy theorists on the assassination and that Oswald was a guy acting on his own. His head goes back and to the left, not forward and to the right. Another shooter had to be present.

:stoopspalm:

Dude...im sorry....you're nuts. they've done the tests. EVERY single reaction show the same thing when a dummy is shot from behind at that distance. The exit wound is on his upper front right part of his face....he was shot from behind. It's not hard to see.

[nolesooner]

If the wound on the back right side of his head is an exit wound, where did the bullet enter?

The "wound" or exit wound is on the upper front right side of his head. the bullet entered his head from behind.

[Col.JimBeam]

It was quite odd though from what I can remember. I mean there was never a mention of cancer before that I don't believe. Whether there is an actual connection we will probably never know. But we do know that LHO was obviously pro Castro as were ALL the monsters. Ruby was a mobster. Just seems so connected somehow. I have no doubt that the mob had other people in other cities to try and do this.

Ruby knew mobsters, doesn't make him a "Made Man" or anything. He was about as mobster as you and me.

Oswald acted alone and all the evidence shows that. The most studied murder in history and no other piece of physical evidence shows a second shooter.

[oucub23]

Anyone else read 'Killing Kennedy?'

[bakerjrb]

I've read most of the books about the JFK assassination that have been written, from "Six Seconds in Dallas" to Mark Lane's "Rush to Judgement" to Bugliosi's comprehensive work to the medical-themed books from the doctors who worked on JFK and Connally in the Parkland ER and David Lifton's questioning of the medical reports in "Best Evidence".

The strongest arguments I've seen for LHO being a lone gunman are:
(1) that he started working at the Texas Book Depository a month before the route of the JFK motorcade was announced - hard to promote a conspiracy when the opportunity to take a shot just falls in your lap.
(2) that he only had ~$200 to his name when he was arrested - if he was a paid assassin, he was the worst paid assassin in history.

A recent book (fiction) written by Stephen Hunter called "The Third Bullet" addresses these, and some of the other inconsistencies with the whole thing. Hunter is the same guy who wrote "Point of Impact", which was turned into the movie "Shooter" with Mark Wahlberg. This new novel is pretty interesting, especially if you have some handle on what has been written previously, and focuses on the ballistics aspects of how a second shooter could have been involved.

Boomer.

[JDShellnutt]

The strongest arguments I've seen for LHO being a lone gunman are:
(1) that he started working at the Texas Book Depository a month before the route of the JFK motorcade was announced - hard to promote a conspiracy when the opportunity to take a shot just falls in your lap.
(2) that he only had ~$200 to his name when he was arrested - if he was a paid assassin, he was the worst paid assassin in history.

(1) Maybe that's why they choose him for the patsy

(2) Maybe he was to get paid after the patsy job was done.

[bushmaster06]

I dont care if you give a shit or not.
All white people are not white supremicists in my eyes.
Im not racist.
Racism in america has almost been exclusively the white man towards women and other races.
Your avatar is still a white supremist sign.

how can you be racist toward a woman?

[bushmaster06]

Stay on topic

go piss up a rope.

[bushmaster06]

you have obviously not seen ALL the tests they have done with the exact same rifle with the exact distance and the exact positioning of Kennedys body in the limo. The shot from the back, during the testing, caused the EXACT same damage to the bodies made up of material very similar to human tissue and skull and bones. Kennedy was indeed shot from behind.

The front shot has no bearing at all. There were only three places to get a shot from the front. Both were on top of the bridge, and one was off to the side behind the fense. NONE of those places had a proper angle at the time of the kill shot. The places in front would have hit the man sitting in front of the POTUS and at the other position, the bullet would have hit the windsheild. If the kill shot came from behind the fense...the bullet would have hit kennedy in the face, and THEN killed his wife which was right next to him.

LHO was hired and Jack Ruby was hired to kill LHO. It's all mob related. It's really that simple.

a) nice try arguing with a surgeon about gun shot wounds.
b) not really.
c) i'm pretty sure there was a storm drain further down the street that (on the same side as the limo) that if timed correctly, lined up perfectly with the limo for a shot on kennedy.
d) tests don't necessarily mean shit. a mythbusters test says that if you shoot a bullet into water it shatters. if that's the case, how to forensic techs use a water tank when comparing striations on a bullet?

[KCRuf/Nek]

how can you be racist toward a woman?

Because when you always use the word when you don't have a point you tend to just use it all the time.

[bushmaster06]

he sure says he isn't a racist a lot for someone who is a racist.

[KCRuf/Nek]

http://i.imgur.com/qscJppH.jpg

[JDShellnutt]

how can you be racist toward a woman?

He actually has no idea what the term means.
He's just been told all his life that all white people are racist.
Plus he's clearly a f'n idiot.

[JDShellnutt]

It truly amazes me how some people doubt conspiracy theorists on the assassination and that Oswald was a guy acting on his own. His head goes back and to the left, not forward and to the right. Another shooter had to be present.

:stoopspalm:

That is clearly an exit wound on the front side of his head, a entry wound doesn't do that kind of damage.

[JDShellnutt]

The three things that I don't understand and no one has ever told me in plain language that sounds reasonable is

1. Why didn't Oswald take the much easier shot before the motorcade turned?

2. How brains fly out of the back of his head if he was shot from behind.

3. If he was shot from behind shouldn't the exit wound have blown part of his face off?

1. No one will ever know that, as Oswald is dead.
2. It blew out the front from the exit wound, and then the wind from riding in a convertible at 15mph blew it back on the trunk lid. (watch the slow mo)
3. Did you not see the front right side of his head explode out? Clearly an exit wound!

[nolesooner]

a) nice try arguing with a surgeon about gun shot wounds.
b) not really.
c) i'm pretty sure there was a storm drain further down the street that (on the same side as the limo) that if timed correctly, lined up perfectly with the limo for a shot on kennedy.
d) tests don't necessarily mean shit. a mythbusters test says that if you shoot a bullet into water it shatters. if that's the case, how to forensic techs use a water tank when comparing striations on a bullet?

the exit wound is on the front of his head. No shot from the bridge or under the drain could have been taken with a successful shot. The grassy nole gunman theory is just ridiculous. Tests may not mean shit...but do you know how many tests have been done with the EXACT same distance and height as the JFK shooting? They've even used the same exact rifle and bullet that LHO used. ALL of the evidence is the same. No magic bullet. The layout of the limo had more to do with it than anything.

But again....I want to stress JFKs exit wound is CLEARLY on the frontal upper lobe of his head.

[JDShellnutt]

No mention of LBJ yet? Many think he had something to do with it.

I did on post #42

[nolesooner]

1. No one will ever know that, as Oswald is dead.
2. It blew out the front from the exit wound, and then the wind from riding in a convertible at 15mph blew it back on the trunk lid. (watch the slow mo)
3. Did you not see the front right side of his head explode out? Clearly an exit wound!

THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[bushmaster06]

That is clearly an exit wound on the front side of his head, a entry wound doesn't do that kind of damage.

If you get shot in the back of the head, how does the entire back of the head get blown away? After the head shot Jackie holds what's left of Kennedy's brains in his head.

[Morningwood]

If you get shot in the back of the head, how does the entire back of the head get blown away? After the head shot Jackie holds what's left of Kennedy's brains in his head.

I politely suggest watching the zapruder film and viewing the autopsy pictures before commenting further

[nolesooner]

If you get shot in the back of the head, how does the entire back of the head get blown away? After the head shot Jackie holds what's left of Kennedy's brains in his head.

Dude...what the fuck are you watching?! The back of JFKs head is still there. It's the front right part that's totally gone.

[DHF]

Dude...what the fuck are you watching?! The back of JFKs head is still there. It's the front right part that's totally gone.

Actually, judging from the autopsy photos, the entire right side of his head is gone, but the majority of the damage is on the back/right side of his head.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Jfkautopsy.jpg/400px-Jfkautopsy.jpg

[Morningwood]

Actually, judging from the autopsy photos, the entire right side of his head is gone, but the majority of the damage is on the back/right side of his head.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/43/Jfkautopsy.jpg/400px-Jfkautopsy.jpg


that's the upper-right side of his cranium (the same part you watched get blown forward in the zapruder film), the the camera angle and the fact that mess is still pulled back makes it appear it's on the back of his head. Look at these clearer pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TPuIiynTRkI/AAAAAAAAHwI/zzbCDTLLYlg/s1600/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_1.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/MISCELLANEOUS%20JFK-RELATED%20PHOTOS/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_3.jpg

[KCRuf/Nek]

I've never seen the photo where it looks like he's up against a wall. I've just seen the ones from celebrity morgue.

I can remember back when Geraldo had his late night show and that was the first place they ever showed the film to the public. It was fascinating to see something like that.

[nolesooner]

that's the upper-right side of his cranium (the same part you watched get blown forward in the zapruder film), the the camera angle and the fact that mess is still pulled back makes it appear it's on the back of his head. Look at these clearer pics:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_6kYzhJGqq2M/TPuIiynTRkI/AAAAAAAAHwI/zzbCDTLLYlg/s1600/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_1.jpg

http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc151/David_Von_Pein/MISCELLANEOUS%20JFK-RELATED%20PHOTOS/JFK_Autopsy_Photo_3.jpg

Yes...and again, he gets shot in the neck first which makes him lean to the left and put his head down a bit....people are ignoring what is actually right in front of them.