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  1. I know Chip was reporting that Pitt was a front...

    I know Chip was reporting that Pitt was a front runner prior to the wallflower comments.
  2. BYU is an option if they can get no sunday play...

    BYU is an option if they can get no sunday play agreed to.

    AFA said no due to not wanting to beat the crap out of their players.
  3. I agree on UL but Pitt was already gone to the...

    I agree on UL but Pitt was already gone to the ACC.

    Adding UL and going to 11 would have helped.
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    The only LB's OU has used like that from my...

    The only LB's OU has used like that from my viewing experience are glorified nickel backs. Your front six is pretty much the same size as your early 2000's teams were when you went to a nickel...
  5. Numbers from common league foes (other than ut or...

    Numbers from common league foes (other than ut or atm) 1980-1995 and after that a hodge podge of playing the same teams either the same year or a year apart. Both returned the same result. I can...
  6. Their budget was blown away by TCU 2 to 1, Tulane...

    Their budget was blown away by TCU 2 to 1, Tulane has them, and smu's tiny base outpaces them considerably. This is in spite of them subsidizing 54% of cougar athletics. Maybe fickle donors are...
  7. I politely disagree. In terms of TV we already...

    I politely disagree. In terms of TV we already get favorable and wide ranging coverage and we get covered as much or more than any league there. It may not be games played in the city limits but TV...
  8. UH merely had "talks". I am sure the PAC 12 has...

    UH merely had "talks". I am sure the PAC 12 has had courtesy talks with SJSU.
  9. UH isn't remotely as well positioned for success...

    UH isn't remotely as well positioned for success as TCU. They may be in a less b12 area of TX but compared to TCU uh had:

    - significantly weaker tv brand
    - 1/2 the season ticket base
    - weaker...
  10. Yes. That way your league has 7 more losses to...

    Yes. That way your league has 7 more losses to tank the # of teams in the top 25 that pushes you ahead in rankings.
  11. Every candidate would do more with 20mm and that...

    Every candidate would do more with 20mm and that is obvious. My point is that we'd be better off giving our golden ticket to those managing their shop well and can amplify what they already do...
  12. You grabbed the wrong numbers. BYU's number...

    You grabbed the wrong numbers.

    BYU's number above you quoted was football REVENUE. Their expenses were the 14mm above- virtually the same as KSU.

    BYU's OVERALL expenses came out at 54mm which...
  13. School 2010-11 Expenses for FB ...

    School 2010-11 Expenses for FB


    Temple 16,961,995 - They spent the most but made no profit (lost money but subsidy covered it) and their school subsidized 75% of their budget. That isn't going...
  14. Unlike TCU or WVU, Tulane, UNM, and CSU lack any...

    Unlike TCU or WVU, Tulane, UNM, and CSU lack any athletics budget thus far. BYU does well but UNM, Tulane, and CSU spend an average of 7.9mm annually on football. The Big 12 (other than UT or OU)...
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    Crap, the slow one is gone.

    Crap, the slow one is gone.
  16. The one thing I think people overlook on the new...

    The one thing I think people overlook on the new B1G tv deal- inventory.

    Most of their stuff is going to the BTN. It pays out 7mm per school right now and probably will go up when the newbies get...
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    More about who you have there than anything else....

    More about who you have there than anything else. If you had a guy like Gresham right now you'd have the TE involved more.
  18. If the networks get your rights anyway via the...

    If the networks get your rights anyway via the Big 12 they would still use them, still pay the B12 for them, who would still pay you for them. The grants were written to account for that. These...
  19. The tweet you quoted wasn't very clear and that's...

    The tweet you quoted wasn't very clear and that's why I quoted the one he also put out there with 4 years equaling 80mm.

    Here's another he put out there:

    Doug Meyer ‏@NebGradDubDub 22 Apr...
  20. Same guy tweeted it was 20 million per year which...

    Same guy tweeted it was 20 million per year which is roughly what you'd expect. So to get out 5 years in advance you'd need 100mm, which is more than FSU's athletics annual budget. Not perfect but...
  21. Yeah. ESPN will probably pay extra rights fees...

    Yeah. ESPN will probably pay extra rights fees for the bottom 14-18 games they didn't already get but other than that I expect the SEC's per school pay increases to come from ads and carriage fees.\...
  22. ULM probably won't be very intimidated by the...

    ULM probably won't be very intimidated by the venue. In the last 2 years they have played AT Auburn, AT FSU, AT Arkansas, and AT Iowa. OU has a great home field advantage but so do each of those...
  23. 07- Voters elevated LSU over VT because they had...

    07- Voters elevated LSU over VT because they had destroyed them on the field. Espn had little to do with it. Every other contender tripped down the stretch as well.


    09- Colt is healthy and...
  24. Big issue for them is the OL that was depleted in...

    Big issue for them is the OL that was depleted in last year's bust. If they can get their OL back to where it was in 2010 & 2011 they will be very tough to beat.
  25. Tech is a huge wild card. Tubbs recruited well...

    Tech is a huge wild card. Tubbs recruited well and players are growing up now to where they won't be young pups anymore. With that said their last 3 years showed how a new DC can be a crapshoot and...
  26. Other than 2 OL, Maponga, Cain, Boyce, and Tucker...

    Other than 2 OL, Maponga, Cain, Boyce, and Tucker they have everyone back. 18/24 starters returning is crazy.
  27. You reference the 2010 season as if its relevant...

    You reference the 2010 season as if its relevant to the point... it isn't because we still had 12.
    It's TBD but our format is 1/2 so far with a loaded field knocking out a blown out KSU in the one...
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    Nick Florence hitting practically no deep throws...

    Nick Florence hitting practically no deep throws when he's usually very good and had open targets qualifies as a bad day.
  29. The pod idea is TBD. Killing off rivalries...

    The pod idea is TBD.

    Killing off rivalries among the power schools in the WAC16 combined with expanding beyond a financially beneficial number had more to do with it's downfall than anything else....
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    He's looked good when he's been in there. We...

    He's looked good when he's been in there. We probably won't be quite as potent on offense this year but dropping from #2 in the nation doesn't mean the offense is going to tank.
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    Experienced QB's: 1- TCU's duo: Pachall was...

    Experienced QB's:

    1- TCU's duo: Pachall was outstanding in 2011 and Boykin was solid in 2012 behind a poor line. The most proven quantity coming back.

    2- OSU: Their trio has a lot of upside...
  32. I go back and forth on how much movement we'll...

    I go back and forth on how much movement we'll see but I agree that we won't see anything until the MD suit is at least somewhat resolved and that to ignore any statement made publicly regarding...
  33. Its tough to say until we see any announced...

    Its tough to say until we see any announced games. I think it's going to have a little of their tier 2 stuff. So probably the bottom part of tier 2 + tier 3.

    The only additional inventory...
  34. 20.8 is everything except the P12 network IIRC. ...

    20.8 is everything except the P12 network IIRC.

    The SEC is paying less than that prior to this deal as they had a 17mm per team deal for 12 teams get reduced to around 14mm each since they added...
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    Loosely related... the 2011 "dust blizzard" ...

    Loosely related... the 2011 "dust blizzard"

    http://farmpolicy.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/Texas-Dust-storm-picture-october-17-2011-red-raider-stadium.jpg

    and of course the flooded stadium...
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    Ok men let's go practice in our dedicated...

    Ok men let's go practice in our dedicated football facility... what? We don't have one?

    Ok then let's go practice in the track bubble we try to roll turf onto... what? the indoor track team and...
  37. That and these two ideas that may not bring any...

    That and these two ideas that may not bring any actual revenue:

    - Located in a huge media market
    - Academics
  38. I don't see it stopping regional additions of the...

    I don't see it stopping regional additions of the USF/UCF teams if that is the desired option. USF/UCF and WVU have been traveling to each other's cities or even farther in those directions for...
  39. The only league that I see really dwarfing anyone...

    The only league that I see really dwarfing anyone here is the Big Ten as their tier 1 will be huge and could get 25mm per team + the 7 they get from the BTN. With that said OU will financially keep...
  40. In an interview Dodds (UT) had mentioned that the...

    In an interview Dodds (UT) had mentioned that the recent moves (mentioned A&M, MU, and OU/Pac2011) were regent driven. So those in power at OU were willing to go but if the other side isn't playing...
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    There was a lot of red. However you are...

    There was a lot of red. However you are eyeballing it and I am estimating it with the capacities of each section. 75-25 or 80-20 is the range it was. Substantial visiting crowd.
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    Obviously TV is the driver here but the tv money...

    Obviously TV is the driver here but the tv money is there either way in this decision.
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    One metric I like to use is the close games...

    One metric I like to use is the close games splitting 50%.

    All games decided by 8 or less are "close". Subtract those out, then add half to the W column and half to the L column.

    OU 2012...
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    This was just posted elsewhere: ...

    This was just posted elsewhere:

    http://i.minus.com/ibjHwWfzAuxIzf.jpg
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    I disagree. Prior to renovations their 2009 and...

    I disagree. Prior to renovations their 2009 and 2010 BCS teams only drew 39-40k of their own fans. Visiting fans help but typically only average 4-5k in the Big 12. Also the new stadium effect is...
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    45,000 initial capacity. 2-3k of it is on the...

    45,000 initial capacity. 2-3k of it is on the gr**** berm in the end zone which is a good move. If we simply draw like we have recently we'll fill the stands seating up usually.

    Expandable for...
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    They'll have that but a lot of parking will be on...

    They'll have that but a lot of parking will be on campus and they'll come across the foot bridge that is also being built.

    The official website for the stadium has a video rendering from when it...
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    It wasn't even close to 50/50 overall. I was...

    It wasn't even close to 50/50 overall. I was there.

    OU had a under half of the east side and some pockets elsewhere primarily in lower portions of sections on the southwest area of the stadium. ...
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    Some more recent renderings for the board: ...

    Some more recent renderings for the board:

    http://i.imgur.com/MrDIzH9.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/2Jg03Bb.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/QkdPwtC.jpg

    And some building plans for it:
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    Cost prohibitive. This is going to cost 250...

    Cost prohibitive. This is going to cost 250 million. Tough to justify more than that. However BU is doing it right with the riverfront stadium on campus. Sadly Waco isn't the craphole people...
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