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    OKC Thunder ***Official Oklahoma City Thunder Off-Season Thread***

    Would Paul George be a good fit for the Thunder?

    Seems like he'd like to get out of Indiana and play for a winner. He's carrying the load there.

    Would the combination of Westbrook, George and Adams be competitive with GSW?


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    Would Paul George be a good fit for the Thunder?

    Seems like he'd like to get out of Indiana and play for a winner. He's carrying the load there.

    Would the combination of Westbrook, George and Adams be competitive with GSW?

    If Adams is going to play like he has the last few months we are in real big trouble with him.

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    damnit, 2121 called starting this thread!

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    Originally Posted by Keef View Post
    damnit, 2121 called starting this thread!
    Selfish is what he is.
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    And when George says things like this after the game 1 loss to the Cavs.......

    "Situations like that, I've got to get the last shot."


    Seems like a perfect fit with Westbrook.
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    Originally Posted by 2121sooner View Post
    And when George says things like this after the game 1 loss to the Cavs.......

    "Situations like that, I've got to get the last shot."


    Seems like a perfect fit with Westbrook.
    Given his current team, yes he probably needs to be the one taking the last shot. Teaming him up with a guy like Westbrook would probably change a few things.
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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    Would Paul George be a good fit for the Thunder?

    Seems like he'd like to get out of Indiana and play for a winner. He's carrying the load there.

    Would the combination of Westbrook, George and Adams be competitive with GSW?

    I don't know if George is the perfect fit (although it may be close) but it certainly makes the Thunder better. Even if is costs them Kanter.
    That said, I doubt there is a chance of it happening anyway.

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    Originally Posted by Malicong View Post
    Given his current team, yes he probably needs to be the one taking the last shot. Teaming him up with a guy like Westbrook would probably change a few things.
    I'll disagree.

    Guys like him want to take the last shot. Be the lead dog.
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    6:55am? Starting the trolling early today.

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    Originally Posted by 2121sooner View Post
    I'll disagree.

    Guys like him want to take the last shot. Be the lead dog.
    You disagree? Shocking.
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    its only cause you don't make any sense.

    You'll make a comment that George probably won't happen, but you'd be ok with it even if it cost them Kanter.

    Kanter!?!? Are you kidding me? Kanter has a massive contract, limited offensive impact, and can't play the pick & roll worth a shit.

    "Even if it costs Kanter.....I'd like Paul George".

    It's no doubt I'd disagree with you.

    "Yeah, I'd love to get Davis from the Pelicans, but it might cost OKC McDoormat and Adams....."
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    The only star, okay good player, I see being traded in a non equitable trade would be Melo because he holds all the cards with his no trade clause and Phil is sick of him. It's just a matter of where he wants to go. Clips make a lot of sense.

    Paul George or Jimmy Butler would take the farm.

    I'd like to see Presti play a facilitator in a trade involving one of those guys and get a castoff that somebody has to sacrifice. Perfect world would be Jae Crowder.

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    Originally Posted by 2121sooner View Post
    its only cause you don't make any sense.

    You'll make a comment that George probably won't happen, but you'd be ok with it even if it cost them Kanter.

    Kanter!?!? Are you kidding me? Kanter has a massive contract, limited offensive impact, and can't play the pick & roll worth a shit.

    "Even if it costs Kanter.....I'd like Paul George".

    It's no doubt I'd disagree with you.

    "Yeah, I'd love to get Davis from the Pelicans, but it might cost OKC McDoormat and Adams....."
    How does giving up Kanter in an attempt to get Paul George NOT make sense. You are talking over yourself searching for a reason to be a contrarian. No one has ever stated "I'd be okay with trading Kanter straight up for George". You WANT to see that is what fans are saying. What is really being said is that I am okay with doing what needs to be done to get George, even if that means moving Kanter as a part of it. No one is proposing moving the end of the bench for an All-Star. You are the only one that ever brings that stuff up.
    "limited offensive impact" and you say I don't make sense. He is only one of the most productive offensive big men per minute in the league and one of the top offensive rebounders in the league period.

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    Originally Posted by SG1 View Post
    The only star, okay good player, I see being traded in a non equitable trade would be Melo because he holds all the cards with his no trade clause and Phil is sick of him. It's just a matter of where he wants to go. Clips make a lot of sense.

    Paul George or Jimmy Butler would take the farm.

    I'd like to see Presti play a facilitator in a trade involving one of those guys and get a castoff that somebody has to sacrifice. Perfect world would be Jae Crowder.

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    Jae Crowder would be a perfect fit.

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    Originally Posted by Malicong View Post
    Jae Crowder would be a perfect fit.
    Would you be ok with that even if it took giving up Singler and Grant to get him?
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    Presti will probably do something no one is predicting. You know, like 99.99% of his actions.

    The thing OKC has going for them is more times than not, his actions work well.

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    Originally Posted by 2121sooner View Post
    Would you be ok with that even if it took giving up Singler and Grant to get him?
    Fitting response. Make stuff up, be an ass about it, repeat.
    In fact, I would be okay with it. I would be okay giving up numerous variations of bench players for Jae Crowder. I never said that is remotely possible but for some reason you want me to. Should I be upset if Boston is willing to do that trade?

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    We need better wing players.

    I assume the Thunder will let Gibson walk. We cannot afford to have so much money tied up in Adams, Kanter, and Gibson. I think we really only need to keep 1 of the 3.

    Olidipo, Abrines, and Sabonia all need to have good improvement over the off season.

    I'm for keeping Roberson if it is cheap, but he can't be our 2nd best wing player if we are going to be a Top 4 seed. He should really come off the bench on a good team.

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    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.

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    I think even casual NBA fans know who John Wall is.
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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    John Wall is a top 5 point guard in the NBA.
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    Presti has drafted very well. Outside of that he traded James Harden, nixed a trade for Tyson Chandler and brought in Perkins. He kept trying to get younger and younger when he already has a strong core. He better pull off a miracle this summer or this whole thing has went to shit.
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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    I agree with a lot of stuff you say, but this is just silly. Wall, beal, Otto porter,think they have gortat there as well. They have one of the best starting lineups in the NBA. It's their bench that is chicken shit.


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    Paul George has made himself a diva this year. I would actually rather see Carmelo on the thunder because he's at a point in his career where it would make sense for him to take a back seat to a superstar. Paul George shouldn't be calling out teammates or coaches for not giving him the final shot.
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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    Christ...
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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    When trolls out themselves... Clearly you don't really watch or follow the NBA.
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    Why would you try to get Paul George? He would walk after the season. He's going to the Lakers. Everyone knows that. I'm not gonna trade Kanter and everything else it would take to get Paul George, for a single season. **** that.

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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    WHAT in the ACTUAL ****?

    87Sooner has hijacked Stinger's account. Gotta be the explanation.
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    Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Paul George has made himself a diva this year. I would actually rather see Carmelo on the thunder because he's at a point in his career where it would make sense for him to take a back seat to a superstar. Paul George shouldn't be calling out teammates or coaches for not giving him the final shot.
    He got the last shot last night and made a small house.
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    Dipo and Adams for him

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    Gotta look at moving Kanter this off-season. Having 18 million/year on the bench for a majority of this series is not good.
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    Trade Westbrook while you can get something.

    #okcnevergonnawinachampionship

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    Originally Posted by macou44 View Post
    Trade Westbrook while you can get something.

    #okcnevergonnawinachampionship
    Oh, but getting rid of our only decent player and guy to build around will DEFINITELY produce championship results. Lol.

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    Originally Posted by MikeLucky View Post
    Oh, but getting rid of our only decent player and guy to build around will DEFINITELY produce championship results. Lol.
    Like it or not, Traber is correct, OKC is not going to be able to get a free agent that's a difference maker. Not with Westbrook being the "leader" of the team.

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    Originally Posted by macou44 View Post
    Like it or not, Traber is correct, OKC is not going to be able to get a free agent that's a difference maker. Not with Westbrook being the "leader" of the team.
    Your sentence started with "Traber is correct." Thanks for the biggest lol of the day.
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    Originally Posted by macou44 View Post
    Like it or not, Traber is correct, OKC is not going to be able to get a free agent that's a difference maker. Not with Westbrook being the "leader" of the team.
    Then you keep Westbrook and be good but not great or you let him walk in free agency and let presti pick up some lottery picks for a couple years because we know he can evaluate talent. Then once you've been in the lottery 3 years, fire presti (Donovan too if it's a must at that point) then maybe the next gm can retain his assets.

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    Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Then you keep Westbrook and be good but not great or you let him walk in free agency and let presti pick up some lottery picks for a couple years because we know he can evaluate talent. Then once you've been in the lottery 3 years, fire presti (Donovan too if it's a must at that point) then maybe the next gm can retain his assets.
    Option 3.... Traber is full of shit, Russ signs Mondo deal and with the stability of that you CAN get the pieces around him that we need. Why do Thunder fans never look at positive possible outcomes?
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    If anything this series shows the Thunder aren't far off.

    They very easily could be up instead of down 3-1 by making self inflicted mistakes.

    And having no backup point and getting nothing from Vic.

    It's all on Presti

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    Originally Posted by MikeLucky View Post
    Option 3.... Traber is full of shit, Russ signs Mondo deal and with the stability of that you CAN get the pieces around him that we need. Why do Thunder fans never look at positive possible outcomes?
    Of the 3 that's probably most likely. I've been saying for awhile we just need a couple more shooters and if Grant isn't the answer at 4 in the future then we gotta fix that hole too. Not sure what's happened to Adams this year but if he can get back on track next year, that would be a big help. And for oladipo, this is first year with a winning team so I think there's just some confidence issues.
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    Originally Posted by SG1 View Post
    If anything this series shows the Thunder aren't far off.

    They very easily could be up instead of down 3-1 by making self inflicted mistakes.

    And having no backup point and getting nothing from Vic.

    It's all on Presti

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    Oladipo should be the backup point guard as long as this series lasts. I'm not sure why Donovan thinks cole and samaj are better at running the offense.

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    Oladipo should be the backup point guard as long as this series lasts. I'm not sure why Donovan thinks cole and samaj are better at running the offense.
    Yeah but Vic has sucked donkey balls this series.

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    Yeah but Vic has sucked donkey balls this series.

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    He's been fine in the last 2 games. Maybe put the ball in his hand for a total of 9 minutes and he will gain some confidence. On the other hand, I get Russ needs rest but in these games Donovan needs to understand there is no reason to play Russ less than 44 minutes.
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    I just hope Presti ends this fascination of always trying to get younger.

    This team has a lot of holes, none of which will be filled by anybody in this draft.

    This pick better be moved.

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    At least we only have to pay Adams $22.5 mil and Olidipo $21 mil for the next few years. Those are great contracts.



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    Originally Posted by BehindEnemyLines View Post
    At least we only have to pay Adams $22.5 mil and Olidipo $21 mil for the next few years. Those are great contracts.


    I don't think they will be as bad a contracts as you think. They cap goes way up and they are still young.

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    Originally Posted by MikeLucky View Post
    Option 3.... Traber is full of shit, Russ signs Mondo deal and with the stability of that you CAN get the pieces around him that we need. Why do Thunder fans never look at positive possible outcomes?
    Yep, the Rockets have lost in the first round three of the last four years even with the great James Harden, so it's not like Morey had all these pieces in place and they immediately started dominating the minute he got there.

    It's like people forget KD left us high and dry at the very last moment. Why do people think Russ was so pissed at that?
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    Originally Posted by htownSOONER View Post
    I don't think they will be as bad a contracts as you think. They cap goes way up and they are still young.
    Adams has regressed from the player he was--he continues to make the same mistakes on both ends of the court as in: rebounding, loafing down the court, missing easy layups, being out of position on defense and making stupid fouls when he gets blown by. Kanter hustles---Adams plays at his own pace.

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    Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    One thing I don't hear much criticism of Presti for: Presti fired Scott Brooks, in favor of Billy Donovan, a guy with no professional coaching experience, after a season when both Durant and Westbrook missed a lot of time due to injuries, after having made it to the playoffs 5 straight times and the finals once.

    In Washington, Brooks has turned chicken shit into chicken salad.

    Quick - name one player on their team without using Google.

    They have no superstar.

    Any yet they just finished with their best regular season record in over 30 years and are the 4th seed in the East.
    Lol clown gonna clown


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    Dipo and Adams contracts aren't bad. Kanter is the problem contract, and it's one we won't be able to unload. There is zero market for a big man that can't get on the floor against small ball lineups. Dude is flat out dead weight.

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    Lol clown gonna clown


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    Yeah, I mean, I could name 10 ish and realize that I'm a bigger NBA fan than most but IMHO most people would hit the Beal, Porter, Wall trio and Brandon Jennings and Gortat have been good NBA players for some time. Then you've got Burke who went HAM in the NCAA tournament pretty recently etc. I'd think your typical ~50 Thunder game a year(mostly TV) OKC fan would hit two of the first three.

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