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    So how special is this team?

    Back in 2000, I went to the KU game where they threw the ball all over the place on our defense and were a couple of overthrown passes from beating us in Norman. I remember thinking that Texas was going to destroy us the next weekend. Well we all know how that turned out. After the KSU game is when I really started to think that team could really be pretty special. I know it's only been 2 games but are any of you having that feeling already? I'm starting to but I also don't want to get my hopes up.
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    well, only time will tell....

    Great win Sat night.....but only time will tell how good tOSU REALLY is. If they drop another 2-3 games, then our win won't look so special. Hopefuly they'll keep winning enough to make us look good, and hopefully we are as good as we played that night.

    Before that game, I felt the same way I did before the Tennessee game in 2015. Same outcome. We'll see if Riley can keep the team focused and motivated each week.
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    I like our attitude. It's all hands on deck and they're not out there to just win...they want to destroy. I seriously think the o-line wants to hurt people. They mean. And Baker...dude is a gamer. The whole team feeds off of him. He's the catalyst.

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    We'll find out in Dallas. Great OU teams minus 2008 beat the living hell out of Texas. 3+ TD win and I'd say this team is special.
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    I hope so. I've gotten my hopes up before, but this team seems to have it so far. It's arguably harder now to win an NC than it's ever been (parody, playoff, etc) so to pull it off would be something.
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    Ah so, mutha fucka.

    I would say that after two games this team looks crisper than any of Stoops teams after two games. Certainly there are a couple of teams that would be right up there but none better than this bunch has done.
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    Originally Posted by Widescreen View Post
    Back in 2000, I went to the KU game where they threw the ball all over the place on our defense and were a couple of overthrown passes from beating us in Norman. I remember thinking that Texas was going to destroy us the next weekend. Well we all know how that turned out. After the KSU game is when I really started to think that team could really be pretty special. I know it's only been 2 games but are any of you having that feeling already? I'm starting to but I also don't want to get my hopes up.
    We can't take any weeks off. There are enough good football minds in this conference (Snyder is a big one) that we could easily get kneecapped by an unlikely opponent if we don't bring our A-game.

    That said, how special do I think this team is?

    We went into the Horseshoe and beat the #2 team in the country...and I don't think we played our best game. Not by a long shot.

    I believe OU's A-game can beat anyone in the country--and I believe Riley is the best offensive football mind of this generation.

    This team will go as far as it is willing to work hard.

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    After 2005, I changed my ways and disallowed myself to get so passionate about it. But it's too late. I think this team is insane good.
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    So how special is this team?

    Originally Posted by GeorgiaSooner View Post
    We'll find out in Dallas. Great OU teams minus 2008 beat the living hell out of Texas. 3+ TD win and I'd say this team is special.
    We are Texas championship. They have no other game that means a crap.


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    I was at the KU game in 2000 as well. I left thinking OU looked good, but never dreamed a Red October was in front of us! On the other hand, after the slaying of FSU in 2011, I just knew we were headed for #8...

    So who knows?

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    What's special is the freshman. Everyone we expected to be good is good. The freshman are making that magic feeling. They're playing solid in their roles making the team seem like it has no weaknesses. It's chemistry. This team has it.
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    Let's not pretend that it's not early and the road ahead is a process. Take one game at a time and build to peak in January. If you have eyes you can see the potential but it's important to stay hungry and healthy to build a championship caliber team with something to prove.

    Long road ahead so let's keep some perspective.

    New era of Oklahoma has begun and the future is bright.
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    Riley's first offensive line is better than any of the O-lines Stoops had in 18 seasons. The current group is better on the interior and deeper than even the '08 group. That's the big difference this season. Our good teams have always been solid at tackle. And that OG/C play is the reason we'll be able to compete with anyone in the playoff if we can get there relatively healthy. Mayfield's mobility and the scheme's ability to get the ball out quickly helps, too.

    I don't think JT Barrett was good enough to give the defense an elite test throwing the ball. But then again I'm not sure Jalen Hurts or that Bryant kid at Clemson are good enough throwing the ball to be a significantly better test in that regard. But Bama's O-line is better than Ohio State and they won't quit on their run game. If we played Bama, I'd expect a shoot-out. The Louisville kid doesn't have an elite offensive line to play behind but he'd be the kind of player who could really torture young LBs. I think Southern Cal would be a tough test for the defense. Darnold is good and they have great skill talent. But now that we're through the trip to Columbus, we should have some margin for error for guys like Kenneth Murray to learn and get better.

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    Special enough to win 2 games so far

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    ....the attitude seems fresh, I believe LR is the x-factor
    ....injection of elevated young talent, discipline, creativity and execution
    ....the preparation is obvious, teams don't perform on the road like that, against programs like Ohio State without putting in the work
    ....the table is set

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    I truly believe there's no team we can't beat. At this point that's all you can ask for.
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    This team has talent and swag-in-spades.

    ...Most importantly focus

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    So how special is this team?

    First year coach. Second game in the Shoe, pulling away victory. If we played that game tomorrow we win by 40. This team has so much more to grow. We only lose if we lose our fire and Baker listens to the negative nannies out there. OL to the Bake. "Be yourself".


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    This team appears much more focused,disciplined and aggressive compared to teams past. Not sure whether it is due to Baker or the coaching. Has a good chance to get us to #8. How they play against Texas will tell us how far they will go. Trap games are TCU and WVU. Not sure what to make of the Pokes based on their first 2 games.

    TCU is the one I am most concerned about. Always close due to their solid game plans plus that **** Patterson always tries to take out our players. We get out of that game without issues/injuries and take care of the Pokes, we should be in the playoffs. Once in, I have great confidence in Riley/Baker to make #8 happen.
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    They may have peaked too soon.
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    Originally Posted by Widescreen View Post
    So how special is this team?
    Before the OSU game, someone posted a thread:

    Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    What's Your Confidence Level Going Into Game With tOSU?
    My response to that question is my response to your question:

    Originally Posted by TheBoots View Post
    Seems like this year we are playing loose like we did in 2000

    Nothing to lose. Just ball
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    This team is special, with special chemistry, and is very well balanced. There are no apparent weaknesses and numerous strengths. It was clear in the opener that the offense has started sharper than it has in years. Remember: the last two seasons the offense has started slow, only finding its rhythm after the Texas game.

    For the first time in a long time, I feel comfortable with the defense. Re-watch Saturday's game and you'll understand how critical they were in that win. The offense didn't really put it all together until late in the third quarter. The defense continued to keep tOSU out of the end zone, keeping us in the game.

    We had questions before the season started: how would the receiving corps look? How would the running back by committee look? How would the linebackers play? These questions were answered in Columbus.

    It's not likely OU will go undefeated; that is very uncommon in the era of football we are in. But I will be shocked and disappointed if this team doesn't make the playoff.
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    We need to get better on special teams
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    Originally Posted by OUVarsityXV View Post
    It's arguably harder now to win an NC than it's ever been (parody, playoff, etc) so to pull it off would be something.
    I agree, a semifinal game adds another whole layer to the process of winning a National Championship but I like to think Oklahoma can overcome that and when people make fun of us by exaggeration.

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    This team is good, really good on the OL. They wont face a more athletic defense until the playoffs and maybe not even then. As far as defense, no one in this conference has the size or length on OL that tOSU has, and theres no JK Dobbins. Our secondary will be the only thing that faces a true test moving forward. We'll see how our DCs want to bottle the Big 12. If we hold teams to less than 25 we will win every game by 20 until injuries or refs dictate otherwise.

    In the playoffs, all bets are off, but the one thing every champ team had in the playoffs is a heisman quality player. We have Baker. That Bake we saw in Columbus...that guy is gonna be insanely hard to beat behind this OL and with this OC/HC. And we havent even seen our speed specialists, Brown and Sutton yet. We couldnt have had more go wrong for us in the first half against a definite top 10 (possible top 5) team on the road, with championship coaching staff across the board, and we won going away. We played 4 diff safeties due to injury and a freshman TE and saw little to no drop off. When has that happened for us ever?

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    In 2011, I went to Tallahassee...

    Ah, never mind.
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    They are 2-0. They are that special at this point. One great win & everyone loses their heads.

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    Originally Posted by Widescreen View Post
    Back in 2000, I went to the KU game where they threw the ball all over the place on our defense and were a couple of overthrown passes from beating us in Norman. I remember thinking that Texas was going to destroy us the next weekend. Well we all know how that turned out. After the KSU game is when I really started to think that team could really be pretty special. I know it's only been 2 games but are any of you having that feeling already? I'm starting to but I also don't want to get my hopes up.
    I was at that game too and although our secondary got torched I do not think we were a few missed passes from losing.

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    We've played 2 games. We may roll through the big12, as we should, but the playoff teams of bama and Clemson loom large in the distance. If we win it all, then we can talk about how special this team is. Until then, it's just nonsense.
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    Originally Posted by Hallucinogenic_Toreador View Post
    I was at that game too and although our secondary got torched I do not think we were a few missed passes from losing.
    Maybe it just felt like it. I vividly remember them getting behind our secondary multiple times. A couple of times they connected and other times the QB just overthrew a wide open guy.
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    Originally Posted by Widescreen View Post
    Maybe it just felt like it. I vividly remember them getting behind our secondary multiple times. A couple of times they connected and other times the QB just overthrew a wide open guy.
    yeah we were worried about Texas the next week. and it was funny, my dad did business with a big k-state alum and he just knew they would kill us, even after the Texas game because of our secondary. I think he got overconfident watching that KU game.

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    Originally Posted by Camel at Sea View Post
    Riley's first offensive line is better than any of the O-lines Stoops had in 18 seasons. The current group is better on the interior and deeper than even the '08 group. That's the big difference this season. Our good teams have always been solid at tackle. And that OG/C play is the reason we'll be able to compete with anyone in the playoff if we can get there relatively healthy. Mayfield's mobility and the scheme's ability to get the ball out quickly helps, too.

    I don't think JT Barrett was good enough to give the defense an elite test throwing the ball. But then again I'm not sure Jalen Hurts or that Bryant kid at Clemson are good enough throwing the ball to be a significantly better test in that regard. But Bama's O-line is better than Ohio State and they won't quit on their run game. If we played Bama, I'd expect a shoot-out. The Louisville kid doesn't have an elite offensive line to play behind but he'd be the kind of player who could really torture young LBs. I think Southern Cal would be a tough test for the defense. Darnold is good and they have great skill talent. But now that we're through the trip to Columbus, we should have some margin for error for guys like Kenneth Murray to learn and get better.
    slow down there. I love this OLine don't get me wrong but that 08 line with Williams, Loadholt, Robinson and Cooper were pretty damn salty.
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    Originally Posted by soonerguru View Post
    There are no apparent weaknesses and numerous strengths.
    This is my take-away, too, at this point. And it feels really good that we look competent and competitive in all areas. Hell, even Seibart was hitting field goals and PATs with little drama after the first quarter!
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    Originally Posted by Camel at Sea View Post
    Riley's first offensive line is better than any of the O-lines Stoops had in 18 seasons. The current group is better on the interior and deeper than even the '08 group. That's the big difference this season. Our good teams have always been solid at tackle. And that OG/C play is the reason we'll be able to compete with anyone in the playoff if we can get there relatively healthy. Mayfield's mobility and the scheme's ability to get the ball out quickly helps, too.

    I don't think JT Barrett was good enough to give the defense an elite test throwing the ball. But then again I'm not sure Jalen Hurts or that Bryant kid at Clemson are good enough throwing the ball to be a significantly better test in that regard. But Bama's O-line is better than Ohio State and they won't quit on their run game. If we played Bama, I'd expect a shoot-out. The Louisville kid doesn't have an elite offensive line to play behind but he'd be the kind of player who could really torture young LBs. I think Southern Cal would be a tough test for the defense. Darnold is good and they have great skill talent. But now that we're through the trip to Columbus, we should have some margin for error for guys like Kenneth Murray to learn and get better.
    I'm looking forward to a defensive secondary that can try and shut down this passing game. Who on our schedule has that kind of defensive backfield?

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    Originally Posted by BillySimsAfro View Post
    slow down there. I love this OLine don't get me wrong but that 08 line with Williams, Loadholt, Robinson and Cooper were pretty damn salty.
    This OL is better because it has far more depth and is better coached.
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    If the game continues in its current form for long enough, eventually someone will break the 50%-blue-chip rule. It's a statistical inevitability. When it happens, that team will probably look a lot like 2017 OU. And it doesn't hurt that I'm seeing nothing but chaos at the top this year, maybe excepting Alabama or maybe not. There's no telling who we'd see in a prospective CFP matchup.

    I think the odds are still against this being that team. Until we get a larger sample, the more likely explanation is that Urban Meyer just put an underperforming team on the field despite recent success and top-shelf recruiting. It wouldn't be the first time he won a title somewhere and went into a tailspin for no good reason.

    But most importantly, that win means this team doesn't even have to be Riley's most special. He's going to wear out the eyeballs emoji.
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    A huge key will be staying away from injuries.
    I like the fact that Riley is playing so many younger players.... thus far with very little drop off.
    In the games where OU can build a nice lead it keeps the starters fresher to not have them being hit and it helps develop our depth so if we do have injuries the players are not as poorly prepared as what we saw in 2008 with an injured LB. It also helps the moral of the team.
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  39. #39
    Oh no doubt. Bedenbaugh is the man. Gonna suck ass when the Sooners lose him.

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    Originally Posted by JoeWashington View Post
    They are 2-0. They are that special at this point. One great win & everyone loses their heads.
    I have not lost my head. I am just enjoying the here and now.

    It's like when I buy a lottery ticket. I can dream really big about what I'll do when I win. That is until the drawing and I don't win. This is sort of the same thing. I can dream pretty damn big at this moment. And there is a lot better chance of us winning it all than me winning the lottery!

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    We will know in something like 11 weeks

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    Originally Posted by CrimsonOberon View Post
    We can't take any weeks off. There are enough good football minds in this conference (Snyder is a big one) that we could easily get kneecapped by an unlikely opponent if we don't bring our A-game.

    That said, how special do I think this team is?

    We went into the Horseshoe and beat the #2 team in the country...and I don't think we played our best game. Not by a long shot.

    I believe OU's A-game can beat anyone in the country--and I believe Riley is the best offensive football mind of this generation.

    This team will go as far as it is willing to work hard.
    I agree with this.

    The game to watch is TCU. Could be epic!

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    i dont' think the receivers have figured out what they're supposed to do when baker starts scrambling....
    when that happens....this offense is going to be crazy good..
    also....i don't think baker has settled in yet.....his passes aren't pinpoint like they were at the end of last season...
    after the first game emotions and the big game emotions....i expect him to really get down to business now...
    add all that to a good defense and it will be disappointing to at the very worst ...not make the finals...

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    We need to get better on special teams
    Lincoln already said it was his fault.

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    Originally Posted by BillySimsAfro View Post
    slow down there. I love this OLine don't get me wrong but that 08 line with Williams, Loadholt, Robinson and Cooper were pretty damn salty.

    Not a dig on the '08 group. And I'm not arguing anyone on the current team is as good individually as Trent Williams. But Florida abused the interior of our O-line in that game. And they were the only really elite D-line we faced that year. This team just faced an elite D-line and held their own a lot better. Obviously we've got to play that way through an entire schedule but I haven't seen an OU line handle an elite D-line in that manner since Switzer was coaching. Mack never had a D-line that good down at Texas.

    LSU controlled the LOS against us until the 4th quarter back in '03. USC did the same the next year. Florida's DTs blew us up several times in that '08 title game. Ohio State presented that type of talent test and we passed it in a way I haven't seen OU pass it in a long, long time.
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    We are good enough to beat anyone but we can't get a big head. Texas always beats us when we wr good and they suck! Tcu is well coached and beat arky by 21. Oklahoma state has a potent offense and extremely athletic dline and we probably going to have to win twice on that one . KSU is much improved from when we crushed them and West Virginia is a good top 20 team. We have a lot of issues to make it anywhere near a playoff but atleast we are 2-0 and have room for one game loss . last year at this point we was in hell. The defensive line has to get better push to win these big 12 games against the good passing teams also.
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    We look good after 2 games, but we haven't faced a quality offense yet. Have not gone up against a good, passing QB, with good receivers.

    I've seen some suspect areas in the secondary, between the LB's and DB's; but luckily, we got away clean.

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    Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    i dont' think the receivers have figured out what they're supposed to do when baker starts scrambling....
    when that happens....this offense is going to be crazy good..
    also....i don't think baker has settled in yet.....his passes aren't pinpoint like they were at the end of last season...
    after the first game emotions and the big game emotions....i expect him to really get down to business now...
    add all that to a good defense and it will be disappointing to at the very worst ...not make the finals...
    Dots aside, this is kinda interesting. Mayfield is currently, according to stats and my own two eyes, the most efficient passer in the ****ing League. But I think you bring up an interesting point. If they get any better, if Baker were to get any more accurate.... hoooooly ****.

    Damn near every area of this team is performing well. It's as if they picked up from the end of last season and kept going, firing on all cylinders but with experience to boot. Yet, there are so many newcomers making plays and grossly involved at every level of the playbook. The number of players making plays is absolutely mind-boggling. Go peek at the summary box score from the first two games on ESPN, and you will see a long sheet of many names - some of which we'd never heard. Lee Morris? Very exciting.
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    Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    i dont' think the receivers have figured out what they're supposed to do when baker starts scrambling....
    when that happens....this offense is going to be crazy good..
    also....i don't think baker has settled in yet.....his passes aren't pinpoint like they were at the end of last season...

    after the first game emotions and the big game emotions....i expect him to really get down to business now...
    add all that to a good defense and it will be disappointing to at the very worst ...not make the finals...
    um the receivers and rbs made several plays while baker was scambling - Ceedee already has a knack for it, Baker only completed 19/20 and then 28/35 or whatever and was perfect on his last 14 in the shoe

    you should give up the crackpipe
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    Originally Posted by MOJO_ERASER View Post
    We are good enough to beat anyone but we can't get a big head. Texas always beats us when we wr good and they suck! Tcu is well coached and beat arky by 21. Oklahoma state has a potent offense and extremely athletic dline and we probably going to have to win twice on that one . KSU is much improved from when we crushed them and West Virginia is a good top 20 team. We have a lot of issues to make it anywhere near a playoff but atleast we are 2-0 and have room for one game loss . last year at this point we was in hell. The defensive line has to get better push to win these big 12 games against the good passing teams also.
    You are absolutely correct. As fans, we are Wayyyyyy excited about what we are seeing. BUt I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that Riley - If the tOSU game was any indication - appears to have a specific plan to attack the opponent. RIGHT, it's been just two games. we could **** up along the way and step on our own toes. But the confidence that he is planning based on opposing teams' talent and tendencies is apparent.

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