If this thread wasn't aptly named when it started, it sure is now. And, is there any "smart" piece of ****?
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If this thread wasn't aptly named when it started, it sure is now. And, is there any "smart" piece of ****?
Dumb postOriginally Posted by haveaseat
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We'll be playing the #2 team on Dec 3.
On the road......Our home schedule was crap this year, except for tech i guess.
When you never play your biggest rival on your home field, it usually is.
Even with that, nothing fell the right way, who would have thought KSU would be ranked in the top 10 when we played them. A&M should have been in the top 10, but they can't play more than a half of football in a game. FSU was on the road, and the pokes are having their best two year stretch in their "STORIED" history, and we have to play them on the road both years. When was the last meaningful game played in norman? #17 FSU last year? #11 Ok State in 2009? #2Texas Tech in 2008. We honestly should have more games at home against ranked teams. Kansas and TCU where also ranked in 08, #16 and #24. Other than that we have played a bunch of crap at home. I know, that is just how the ball bounces sometimes, and we play texas at a neutral site, but it sucks for the season ticket holders. For the amount of money they are paying you would think they would get to see some quality games. At least more than 1 per year. 2008 was the last year that our fans had a good home schedule. Next year doesn't look too bad as of right now, but once again, things can change.
Yep. They're not idiots. They bungled the Pac thing. They still haven't expanded the Big 12 back to 12. Now they've convinced/bought into the WVU fiasco.
Their track record is stellar here.
Last edited by x97; 11-05-2011 at 02:10 AM.
It was just bad luck that our home schedule sucked this year. People will **** about anything
I'm sure BYU will thrive as an Independent, so don't worry.
x97!!
hell ya
you outta mid-major status yet?
that ****'s like tar-baby to x97
/no racist
On the other hand.....it brings up a valid question:
Can non-white people go to Heaven yet?
This! You can blame Nebbish and Colorado for the #2 team not coming to Norman later in the year.
lash do you listen to Robert Johnson? Just wondering because i am a bluesman too
I don't listen to Robert Johnson, but I really like what Clapton does with Johnson's music.
But I'm more of a Bonamassa fan these days.
Last edited by Hermit; 11-06-2011 at 10:17 AM.
Actually it's a great post ...
Only when Be*whY*yoU gets a black baby Moses version of Peyton Manning on the gridiron, plus (and/or) B?U expands Mormonism into the large urban rap/sports star venue by means of Kobe Bryant - plus a Latin version of the Book of Mormon co-writen by Manny Ramirez - & a Mormon shoe sponsored by Yao Ming, desinged by Nike, with an all-natural version of Redbull from the family of Geronimo... Then yes us colored can join in with the good pure Mormon brothers like x97!!!... By the way why ya hatin` on OUr Bobo & Joe.C we are stuck in this HELL for at least 6 years, just enjoy your football independence and ticket to polygamist wifes in heaven
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yeah he's awesome
Saw in ESPN ticker that Mizzou to the SEC will be official this week. I'll believe it when I see it.
Well believe it SoonerLibertarian, cause it's been finally officially announced. Missouri is heading to the SEC and will join them July 1, 2012 in all sports.
http://www.secdigitalnetwork.com/NEW...onference.aspx
Unless the Big 12 and WVU can win the lawsuit against the Big East to break the 27 month commitment or whatever it is, the Big 12 TV contract is screwed.
right now, WVU is heading to the Big 12....next year. The 27 month commitment is according to the Big East, a contract, which if WVU breaks they will have to pay for damages. So.....WVU is coming next year unless in the law suit they get and ****ction to hold off.
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A&M announced to the SEC on a Sunday after losing to Oklahoma State. Missouri announced on a Sunday after losing to Baylor. SEC Tradition of taking Big 12 losers?
WVU is such a mistake for us. Awful fans and a ridiculous distance to travel. With the PAC you were talking about still playing most of your games here in our region. But EVERY road game for WV is a major trip. Just doesn't seem to fit.
Shortest trip is to Ames at 14 hrs.
Norman - 19
Austin - 23
Lubbock - map says "one day"
They are basically a full day drive from every other conference school.
Last edited by SoonerSean03; 11-06-2011 at 10:10 AM.
Sooner fans, hope you guys get your wish soon to get out of the Big XII. Y'all are a classy bunch, have a great athletic program, and everyone I'd meet in Norman for away games was always unfailingly hospitable. Good folks. Really going to miss having a yearly game to use as a yardstick (OU beats us by 7 or less="Hey, we got us a decent team").
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We've watched four schools bolt. We've lost traditional matchups with Nebraska, CU and Mizzou while also losing aTm. And our best responses have been to add TCU and WVU.
What a joke.
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and you would want......what?
TCU and WVU are the best available football programs out there that would see the Big12 as a step up. Both are solid additions. Do they equal the 4 that left? no of course not.
But the Big10 isn't inviting OU, the Pac12 isn't either now. OU could go to the SEC, but not without OSU...which means that won't fly on several levels.
So...OU and OSU could go join the Big East and make about $10 million dollars a year less then they do in the Big12...is that an option?
Yes, griping about what has happened does nothing for anybody. It just drags everybody down. Even those who are trying to take a positive attitude and move on.
There's nothing we can do but be positive and hope the conference improves.
The point is the conference should have been proactive and kept this from happening. Now that it has we're just a shell of what we were. Adding WVU makes no sense to them or us. We'd have been better off trying to get multiple teams to create a footprint that made more sense than 9 teams being in OK/TX/KS/IA and one in WV.
It is what it is - but it's a damn shame the league had to fall apart.
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Yeah, well there's nothing anyone can do about what happened.
So deal with it.
We don't need your negativity.
Who****Only when Be*whY*yoU gets a black baby Moses version of Peyton Manning on the gridiron, plus (and/or) B?U expands Mormonism into the large urban rap/sports star venue by means of Kobe Bryant - plus a Latin version of the Book of Mormon co-writen by Manny Ramirez - & a Mormon shoe sponsored by Yao Ming, desinged by Nike, with an all-natural version of Redbull from the family of Geronimo
I'm not 100% sure what the league could have done to prevent some of these.
CU: always wanted in the PAC, and culturally they are far more of a fit with the laid back Cali crowd then football passionate, Oklahoma and Texas crowd
A&M: The move to the SEC for them I think is brilliant. They get out of the shadow of Texas, and bring more value to the SEC then they do to the Big12 (Houston/Texas market for SEC which even with out A&M the Big 12 really don't lose)
Nebraska: They can point to UT, but the money in the Big10 is so huge, especially on the academic side with the Big10's CIC any school would want to be a part of that. If OU were ever to separate from OSU...it would be for the Big 10 (not going to happen..but still) Can't blame Nebraska for that one. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Committ...al_Cooperation
Missouri: ok, this one I find "odd". The SEC currently doesn't make that much more money than does the Big12. They don't have their own Conference Network, and their 3rd tier ownership rights are very similar to the Big12's. To claim it's "more stable" I'm not sure I get unless Missouri is worried that OU or UT could bolt for the PAC or Independence one day leaving MU with out a conference as almost happened this fall. But I don't see any program leaving the Big 12 now..so it's "stable".
If it's income inequality that is the issue, then yeah, the Big12 needs to deal with the Longhorn Network, and some how bring it into a Conference Network....but the SEC has the SAME EXACT problem with Florida and the Sun Network, and no conference network, and 3rd tier rights owned by the schools.
As far as "footprint" or "geography" goes....yeah West Virginia doesn't really fit. But look around the Big 12, and you will see the Big 12 is in a similiar situation that the Big 8 and the Southwest Conference were in. Not enough schools in not enough of a population base, which is really important for TV. West Virginia at least has a good national TV brand, and that's why they are added.
The Big 12 doesn't need anymore Texas schools...we have Texas covered. So...lets look at the border states: Arkansas and LSU are stable and happy making good money in what many perceived as the top football conference in the country. The Big12 is at BEST a lateral move for each and possibly a small step down, and would be a step down in money (about $4 million a year now.....could be more if the SEC gets a conference network or a new TV deal with A&M and Missouri joining)
Missouri? I don't think Missouri State is ready......Nebraska..no schools there besides NU. Minnesota? No school is leaving the Big10. It's #1 in money (athletically and academically combined) Colorado? Air Force wants Navy and Army in a conference, and have other goals besides winning a National championship in football. Colorado State? maybe....New Mexico?
See the point being is outside of the state of Texas, there really isn't any Big12 level schools that aren't already in as good or better situation that would join the Big12.
Is the Big 12 worse off now, and next year then they were 2 years ago....sure. Was there anything they could have really done? probably not, though I think they should have pushed for combing TV rights, and having a conference network....but that was shot down by the member schools and our past commish ended up working for the Big10 and setting up their conference network.
Wait, wut?
Have fun watching your team go from winning nothing to...winning nothing. Can a team win less than nothing? Because that's what Missouri is going to do. Sorry, but this move makes the least sense out of pretty much all of the moves that did or could have happened. Mizzou is a mid-tier sports program who is throwing away one of the best rivalries in the country so they can get their ****es kicked even worse than they already do for slightly more money.
I sure wish it was us going with Mizzou.
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If I was running Mizzou, I would have done the same thing. It's their best move in the long run. They almost got left of the train twice in a year and a half with OU and UT talking to the PAC. When those schools wouldn't commit media rights for any period longer than 6 year, I think that told Mizzou everything they needed to know.
Someday, most likely in six years, UT and OU will either join the PAC or UT will go to BIG and OU to PAC. Or something. But whatever they end up doing will most likely not include Mizzou.
By joining the SEC, Mizzou gets SECurity and never has to worry about being left out of the picture when the final conference realignment armageddon happens. In the summer of 2010, they were looking at being in a leftover conference with KU, KSU, Baylor and ISU. Now they're in the SEC and never have to worry about the future again.
Doesn't matter that they won't compete for SEC titles. They don't compete for B12 titles. Mediocre athletically with a secure home is a much better situation for them.
And they will make a lot more money in the SEC. With Aggy and Mizzou in hand, Slive can (and will) now renegotiate their tier 1 and 2 deals for big $$$. The SEC boys have been pissed off ever since the PAC struck gold on their tv deal. And the SEC is going to have an SEC network with every school's third tier rights on it in the next couple of years. Most likely in partnership with (wait for it) ... ESPN. (Big shock, right ?) SEC will be making more money than anyone once those deals are done. That was the whole point of getting Aggy in the first place, was to add the TX markets for the tv negotiation.
Mizzou made the right move for their future.
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We'll be in the Big 12 for at least several years but just looking at how everything is shaping up internally from OU's standpoint and the external factors, we WILL be somewhere else soon (PAC more than likely but B1G would be the perfect dream if OUr divorce with osu was successful)
Missouri made the right choice. Sure they'll be bottom feeders for the first several years and never see anything beyond mediocrity in the SEC but they have brand and money security locked up for them.
Big 12is here tostay
Missouri started all this crap in the first place, screw 'em.
Hey what a nice thing Mizzou did (note out of Deaton`s pocket)... there is a logistical point roadmap for Doody (Dodds) Bobo (Boren) & Joe.Cin the "Were-the-Big12-'n-we-add-whos-left-'n-you-will-like-it" touring mobile... seems to be rather large map and the media is having trouble reading this lets read it 2gether shall we!?!!............................................ ........................... http://youtu.be/xoM8UcB8tlgWe r furk`n fu^ked like Whaley's ankle & Broyles' knee... At least 1 will get to go to big cities not named Fart Worthless TX, Morganowns-ville WV, Aimless IA, Madhattan KS, Wacko TX starting next year... 6 year countdown starts summer of 2012... Hope the Mayans were wrong!!
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There's no reason why the Big 12 won't continue to survive well into the future.
With continued instability, the Big 12 is not a long term league.
Disgusting to be left in the remains of this conference for whatever time period. OU deserves better.
BYU in talks to join the Big East? Huh? Why would they be a better fit there then in the Big 12, where BYU's list of demands especially ownership of replay rights made even UT choke?
Here's the story: http://brett-mcmurphy.blogs.cbssport...32522/33174921
Because the Big East is desperate enough to bow to their list of demands, or at least negotiate on some of them.
UO, good luck this weekend against Luck and his nerd herd. I have no selfish motives whatsoever in saying this, just so you know.
Just like I have no selfish motives in hoping that you take down Okie State.UO, good luck this weekend against Luck and his nerd herd. I have no selfish motives whatsoever in saying this, just so you know.
I'm not super worried about the game actually. We match up with them a lot better than they match up with us. It's going to be very difficult for them to contain our speed on offense and we have the talent at CB to just leave them on an island all game, stack the box and watch out for their TE's. They're going to have all sorts of problems with De'Anthony Thomas, wherever we have him line up.
@DeanBlevins Dean Blevins
#OU President David Boren just told me an unnamed conf ( #SEC ) wanted OU last year but since they didn't want #OSU he said no. #sooners
Ohhh, boy.
Where's Byrk?
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