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Also, there's a fantastic interview with Armanti's dad on ESPN right now about his decision. Everyone who can, should read it. In short, they felt it was disrespectful for them to keep visiting while committed; not fair to OU. OU is absolutely still in it. Really hinges on his brother.
FYI, he was in Austin for the Texas Relays. Visiting UT was secondary.
I don't have a problem with the decommit. I want kids that want to be Sooners. His brother should be recruited on his own talent, not coat-tailing off his brother.
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OU has no problem getting receivers. I'm sure Norvell has a ton of options. I'd be more concerned if this were an Oline or Dlineman
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Have you seen his brother's highlights?Originally Posted by Keller Sooner
He's a kid. He can't even make up his mind what ****ing shoes to put on in the morning. If he ends up here, great. If not...happy trails.
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Wouldn't be surprised if Todd replaces him at the spring game.
melbitoast, yes I've seen the brothers video and he looks like a fine running back. OU will probably take another running back in this cl****, but is he what they are after? If so, why haven't they offered both. OU is loaded at running back and it's my opinion they would be better served to use those schollys for OL & DL.
All I'm saying is, you don't take one kid just to get his brother unless they are filling the needs that you are looking for.
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I have complete faith in Norvell finding someone just as good or better.
I have no issues with the kid looking out for his brother.
I agree with you about the scholly being better utilized elsewhere (i.e. Starks and lineman). My point was, that if you had NOT seen d'Onta highlights, that you should go watch. I don't believe d'Onta NEEDS to "ride Armanti's coat-tails" as you stated; particularly when Armanti is wearing a "sport jacket".I believe d'Onta will be a very productive RB in college and will have D1 offers by the time his SR is over.
IMO, d'Onta is on par with Perine, so if the coaches REALLY wanted Armanti that bad, they would have taken his brother by now as well. Despite the slight body difference, d'Onta and Samaje are very similar backs.
I mentioned on another site that this may go beyond football. Perhaps Armanti is pulling really hard simply just to get d'Onta into a better, higher-education institution for career purposes. NFL prospects are always slim, so maybe they're just trying to get as good an education as possible. Just conjecture on my part though.
Riding his brother's coat-tail was a bad choice of words by me. I hope he gets to play with his brother and If it happens to be at OU I would be happy.I agree with you about the scholly being better utilized elsewhere (i.e. Starks and lineman). My point was, that if you had NOT seen d'Onta highlights, that you should go watch. I don't believe d'Onta NEEDS to "ride Armanti's coat-tails" as you stated; particularly when Armanti is wearing a "sport jacket".
IMO, d'Onta is on par with Perine, so if the coaches REALLY wanted Armanti that bad, they would have taken his brother by now as well. Despite the slight body difference, d'Onta and Samaje are very similar backs.
I mentioned on another site that this may go beyond football. Perhaps Armanti is pulling really hard simply just to get d'Onta into a better, higher-education institution for career purposes. NFL prospects are always slim, so maybe they're just trying to get as good an education as possible. Just conjecture on my part though.
It is easy to have a knee jerk reaction over a decommit, but I respect the logic of the father. It WOULD be disrespectful to be "committed" to OU and STILL take visits.
If he eventually decides he wants to be a Sooner and OU decides to offer his brother, excellent. However, wide receiver is one of the handful of positions that we do not have to worry about under Norvell, either recruiting wise or on the field. Norvell can absolutely find another excellent receiver with that scholly. We all know what caliber of players Norvell can recruit. The question now becomes, if Armanti decides he wants to recommit to OU, will there be room for him?
Whatever happens, I wish the kid well. If he wants back in and we have room for him, I welcome him. If he goes elsewhere, good luck. Sincerely.
Oh well
He'll have fun chasing DBs.
KD Cannon.
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If we end up getting Cannon, talk about trading up.
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I'm going to have hell keeling KD Cannon and Cannon Davil straight.
Meh, at 5'11 and a buck 75, I won't be losing any sleep over him.
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Yep I stand by my initial post in this thread(the 1st reply whn it was thought he was headed to OU)
FWIW I have still yet to see ANY sort of video from his HS days, camps, etc. where he shows exceptional quickness and/or speed considering he is small even for a College WR ... Probably would seemingly be limited to the slot even in College IMO
I don't even worry about our commits till around September. Which is still earlier than Shipp worried about it.
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Saunders is what 5-9 160? I just dont think we need a WR this size right now...IMO
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Well since Saunders is a is a Senior in 2013. Armanti wouldn't suit up for his first game until fall 2014 your point is moot.
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My point is that he can play at that SIZE...that SIZE. Irish said he better have the quicks at that SIZE, so I pointed out that Saunders is that SIZE and he is playing. I was saying in general we dont need that type of player, SS will be the slot...and off of the top of my head I cant think of the other player we recruited that was that SIZE
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Was anybody really surprised by this lol?
You mean they thought it was bad to CONTINUE to disrespect OU while continuing to visit other places.
Don't ask me what I think of you, I might not give the answer that you want me to.
Exactly.
Precisely. They presented the situation very "politically" though.
Speaking of size, Ryan wasn't a huge guy by any means, neither was Kenny. I don't think size so much matters.
Spoken like a true white boy.
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Well I agree that it isn't a requirement to be successful especially at the College level by any means. I also think this can apply to nearly any potential attribute that a recruit/player can possibly possess(with a certain amount of speed being one of the few actual "requirements").Speaking of size, Ryan wasn't a huge guy by any means, neither was Kenny. I don't think size so much matters.
Spoken like a true white boy.
However, if a guy is lacking in size IMO it can limit his margin for error when it comes to how much speed, quickness, etc. comes to him naturally.
Samaje Perine is about 15lbs more and is STACKED. Samaje is a bruiser and can take it. Just going off offers it's obvious Perine has more upside. Does d'Onta even have an offer yet? No. You don't think Florida, Texas, Texas A&M and Oklahoma have seen D'Onta film? They are all recruiting Armanti who really wants to go to school with his brother. Not even Baylor has offered d'Onta. I don't really know what you see that makes d'Onta even close to Samaje. The defense loads the box in every play on Samaje's highlights and runs with a lot more power. d'Onta's highlights are a lot of dump off passes, kick off returns, and some good runs. He's a good athlete but I don't understand what shows he's even close to Perine. Not doggin on you or anything would just like to hear it.I agree with you about the scholly being better utilized elsewhere (i.e. Starks and lineman). My point was, that if you had NOT seen d'Onta highlights, that you should go watch. I don't believe d'Onta NEEDS to "ride Armanti's coat-tails" as you stated; particularly when Armanti is wearing a "sport jacket".
IMO, d'Onta is on par with Perine, so if the coaches REALLY wanted Armanti that bad, they would have taken his brother by now as well. Despite the slight body difference, d'Onta and Samaje are very similar backs.
I mentioned on another site that this may go beyond football. Perhaps Armanti is pulling really hard simply just to get d'Onta into a better, higher-education institution for career purposes. NFL prospects are always slim, so maybe they're just trying to get as good an education as possible. Just conjecture on my part though.
Him and his brother got offered by Illinois. I believe this is his brothers first offer.
Recruiting sites are always wrong, but I believe the average is about 10lbs of difference. That's one off-season as Perine doesn't really need to get any bigger unless the intention is for him to become a FB. And going off of offers is stupid. Texas coaches do that ****, and we see how that's turned out for them. And how do you know he's stacked? Have you seen him naked? How do you know d'Onta is not a ripped 200lbs?
Not sure if you read through the thread or not, but I see a lot of Chris Brown in d'Onta. Decent speed, great balance, soft hands, good vision, and productive. Every highlight (except 1 kickoff return) I've seen of Perine, the guy is getting run down by JV-level players. He really struggles getting around a corner b/c of his lack of speed. He's got great vision and can hit a seam, but he gets run down every time. I know he's coming off of injury, but the kid is slow, period. Perhaps he was still just VERY tenative last year, but nothing impressed me in SP's "highlights". Hopefully, his knee is healed by his SR year and he goes atomic. I'm not against Perine by any means. My point is: what impressed the coaches so much to offer Perine and not d'Onta? Does he have some upper-level sophomore highlights (playing against varsity teams) we haven't seen? I'm going to go watch him and cheer him on this fall (he plays in the district I live in), and I really hope he becomes elite.
I pose your question back to you: what have you seen that makes you believe Perine is THAT much better than d'Onta? From the highlights we have available, your answer should be "nothing".
And about 30 mins after your post, d'Onta received his first D1 offer from Illinois. Not great, but not bad. Not jabbing at you, but that was kind of funny.
Like i said nobody has offered him... jk Illinois is alright. JV level players? They're both 4a Texas high schools I don't know how you can come up with that. Trent Richardson's highlights he's not exactly burning anybody either I don't really understand how that determines if a RB is good or not. As I mentioned earlier the difference between d'Onta's film and Perine's film is, Perine's ability to run between the tackles the fact that the there's about 9-10 kids in the box against him every time he's in the backfield that he usually plows through is a good indicator of how powerful he is. I think d'Onta's highlights are good but it's about the same as most HS RBs they're all athletic most run a 4.6 or better and weigh around 200 lbs. Most of his highlights that I saw were from 2011 couldn't find 2012. d'Onta has the benefit of not being the main threat on the team. The catches that he caught are mostly broken plays. They're a lot different backs from each other. btw Perine has 2012 highlights they are just scattered by games. Did I say d'Onta wasn't stacked? He's a big boy but Perine is bigger and Perine CAN add probably another 15-20 lbs of lean muscle weight over his college career. If he can still run as fast at 230 as he can at 215 why wouldn't you add weight?
Sorry for going off topic... Armanti will be replaced pretty quickly. I don't think any WR ignores OU anymore. I hope we get the Cannon.
LMAO!
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