It's an element, granted, but isn't the determining factor.
Notre Dame wasn't supposed to be any good this year, but I was damn excited for that game before the season started. Remember when we played Bama? They sucked ass, but I was fired the **** up for that game. You know why people tune into games for teams they don't follow? It's because the match up is exciting. No one gives a flying **** about OU-Baylor, or Michigan-Kent State or Florida State-Northern Illinois.
However, OU doesn't have that large of a base. We are a National Brand, but that only goes so far.
Next issue is scheduling. Once conferences go into conference play, there's not many open dates for conference schools to play other schools. The heart of our schedule would be BYU, New Mexico St and Idaho.
Also football has no goal BESIDES a National Championship. This past year OU got a share of the Big 12 Championship....but going independent, there would be no conference championship to play for. Without a goal to play for football would become a pointless exhibition.
This is BEFORE we talk about the non-revenue sports. Would we have our non-revenue in the Missouri Valley Conference?
Lastly, playing average teams doesn't prepare a team to play in a national championship. Sometimes it causes a team to get beaten like a drum. Does that sound familiar?
Last edited by DelMarSooner; January 19th, 2013 at 11:10 PM.
The SEC & ACC have OOC games after conference play starts, plus no one has any issues scheduling Notre Dame during the conference season. Not saying we're Notre Dame, but I really think we'd have no problem scheduling.
I disagree entirely with the no goal argument. We lost 1 conference game this year and were out of contention for the conference championship (Don't care about sharing. It's my opinion that KSU won the conference, and it's not changing.). We would be competing for the national championship and to get into the playoffs every year.
Your last point is valid. Honestly, I don't care, don't watch them because I have no time. Stick 'em in the Big East, I dunno.
Please do a quick juxtaposition of the OU and USC schedules (the one time we got "beaten like a drum" in the title game) and point out the juggernauts hat helped forge the mighty Trojan iron.
If (I should say when) playoffs get past 4 teams, an independent OU becomes a better option I think. Be easier to get in as an independent.
As far as TV money is about who wants to watch. We have fans in Oklahoma and Texas, but I'm not sure that's enough to get us enough pay out. Being part of a conference we get paid on overall content inventory too. We would need to get paid about $3 million per home game we'd have to about make the same money (pull off the top of my head with out actually doing any math). I don't think Fox Sports SW will be paying that kind of scratch for OU vs Idaho.
Iron sharpens iron. To be the best, you have to beat the best. Nobody ever says, play a bunch of shitty teams and that makes you better. We need a better conference for the long term interests of our program. It makes OU better. Its more exciting for the fans, players, coaches, recruits, etc. Playing in a crappy conference does not help OU at all, in any way.
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Maryland files countersuit vs. ACC; wants ACC's lawsuit to recoup $52.3M exit fee dropped, Bloomberg reports
“Our lawsuit calls the ACC’s ‘exit fee’ what it really is -- an antitrust violation and an illegal activity,"
RT @alex_prewitt Spoke w Attorney Gen Doug Gansler.Said ACC has begun withholding revenue from Maryland as "collateral against exit fee"
possession is 9/10ths of the law
If we are adding new members, screw the conference, let’s first be for whatever helps OU and that’s not always going to be what generates the largest amounts of money.
We should consider our recruiting implications.
Texas is our recruiting ground, it was in the Big 8 with no Texas teams in the league, and it can be in the future, if we would just bail out of the Big 12!
Ugh, x97 has made its way here from shaggy.
The Maryland lawsuit is the only major realignment news to follow. If the win over the ACC then expect the SEC, B10, and B12 to feast.
Like I said, there really isn't as much to see here as people believe. When you analyze all the facts that is apparent.
Plus, if the B1G was going to "feast" on the ACC then why did the "settle" for dogs like Maryland and Rutgers? If the B1G could just start picking off schools from the ACC whenever they want they wouldn't start with those 2 dogs. Those are schools you settle for. They are not schools you take first.
If you think things overs it's pretty clear. Stop reading swaim and start thinking logically about it.
Nothing may happen..simply see this outcome as the next major tipping point.
Hypothetical scenario, two part question:
Let's say the current and soon to be 14 team conferences decided to make the move to 16 and:
The ACC adds West Virginia and UConn or Notre Dame moves football to the ACC.
The B1G adds two from the pool of Iowa State/Kansas/Kansas State.
The PAC adds OU, OSU, UT and TT.
1. Would the SEC add TCU and Baylor? This is provided that all ACC members are committed to staying together, which would leave the SEC with East Coast options like USF, UCF, etc.
2. If the answer to #1 is yes, than would it be wiser for OU & OSU to join the SEC, to keep the SEC's footprint in Texas at a minimum?
I would answer "yes". In that scenario the SEC makes the most sense. Don't like the PAC deal without travel partners. OU would be WV.
More likely UT and the PAC can never work it out. The PAC will eventually, after BIG and SEC continue to leave them in the dust, be willing to add OU, OSU, TT, TCU. UT goes independent.
I could see the BIG getting to 16 by some combo of UVA, Mizzou, (Syracuse or BC).
Dont think the SEC will go to 16, there just aren't teams that add value
For all the talk about money, winning big is the biggest money maker for OU.
I see no long term advantage for OU to play an extremely tough conference schedule that makes both winning and making money more difficult.
Donations, ticket sales, and Sooner Sports Property’s combine to make a lot more money for OU than even the best 1 & 2 tier TV rights.
Why put those things at risk.
Last edited by OU48A; January 20th, 2013 at 12:36 AM.
It would kill us in the long run.
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