Considering the fact that the last three national title games have ended in tragedy, I think I subconsciously associate NT games with weeks of deep, dark depression. But yeah, winning the 8th would be some shit, I just don't think we need to pay players to do it..
I'm sorry but anyone comparing it to the 85-2000 drought didn't really live through it.
**** on the ut board.
we have an opportunity to finish the season 11-2 and your comparing this program to blake and smelly's? jeeeze dude you are an idiot.
****ing championships, and will stop at nothing to do so. They gave the previous guy all the time they could stand to give him, and he just couldn't get it done. This kind of coach would be willing to strap one on and get the job done because he was confident he could do so. Not "oh man, if Bob can't do it here I can't"
Just a reminder for those that want to inexplicably bring up the Blake years during these types of conversations: Bob Stoops wasn't as "credentialed" as the coach he replaced either.
the new coach would have to succeed immediately because the foundation has been built. DHF is correct, a top talent new coach would be an idiot to come aboard replacing a coach going 11-2 with all the other accomplishment listed.
You're missing my point. You don't think there's even one talented coach out there that thinks he can do the job immediately? You think every single talented coach in the world is scared to come into OU to try and win another NC?
well if your looking to take a risk in an unproven talent (ie. Stoops back in the day), there will be plenty of candidates wanting to coach here. if you're looking for a top tier coach to change schools ... then hell no.
for every stoops "find", there are 20 others that are a bust.
I would say that he is still considered by the President, the AD, and the majority of fans (look for revenues to continue in their upward trend) as a guy that will get the chance to stay as long as he wants, barring scandal.
I would love to win one next year, but I also realize that there are so many ways that a NC can get derailed that an NC, while a goal, is not an expectation.
Bob is in the very unenviable position of setting the bar too high for even himself. He got lucky in 2000, and he hasn't been able to replicate the feat since. The "OU Monster" is a very very hungry monster and needs to be fed. So while the standard of winning a championship is one that he's been a part of creating, it's also the one that he's being judged very harshly against right now.
Nick Saban, Urban Meyer, and Pete Carroll disagree.
Y'all derailed this shit worse than I do.
Answer the question...
Would you cheat or not?
You essentially said that luck was a factor in every national championship run, unless I misread your post. I provided three examples of coaches that had won more than one championship. All three also won one at the expense of Bob, too. In my mind, it stops being luck after the first one. And before we go down this road again, one of Carrol's is the AP championship. But tell me if OU was anoited AP champs that we wouldn't claim it.
Put another way, should one injury really be all it takes to derail a NC game? In 2003 two things contributed the most to our loss (not counting having Satan on the opposing sideline). Chuck 3rd and Long's inexplicable playcalling in the 4th quarter, and Jason White having a very injured throwing hand. In 2008, people pointed to the absence of Demarco Murray as the reason we lost to UF. I'm just saying that it doesn't seem to take much for Bob's teams to be wiped out, and that better coaches/programs out there overcome adversity better than we do.
Answer this then...if UF went without Harvin or LSU's Marcus Spears had a heavily injured foot that those games turn out the same?
That doesn't make them lucky, and it doesn't make stoops lucky in 2000 either.
I think you're taking personally the fact that I said Stoops got lucky. Stoops did get lucky. It's an indisputable fact. Not having even one injury all year takes an extreme amount of LUCK in college football. Look at every single other year he coached. He had injuries all over the place. He was very lucky to not have one player hurt that year.
If we're gonna talk about luck:
Tressel was lucky because of the PI....OU was dominant in their game against the bet offense in the country.
did you even watch OU that season? geeez ..............
You're somehow still missing the point, presumably because i was right about you taking what I said about Bob personally for some reason. Bob Stoops got lucky that he had zero injuries in 2000. True or false?
Also, Alabama lost a key player DURING the NC game against LSU last year and still won. Also, Bama lost two key offensive players this year and is playing for it all again.
Also, the fact that he hasn't been able to replicate the feat also points to it being luck. Kind of like in a game of H.O.R.S.E., you have to hit that proof shot at the end to make sure it wasn't luck that you hit that winning shot.