Schooner9 you got that right. Two plays made the difference. We went into the ND game a little complacent and couldn't recover when we needed to. However, as much as I hate the Golden Domers I do not want Alabama to win the NC two years in a row.
2010 season; OU was preseason #1 and deemed worthy of their own special by ESPN. The Sooners inexplicably dropped a game to a crumbie Tech team, then one to Baylor and then went into full meltdown against OSux. Granted the Sheephosers had their 'once in a generation' team. After the season, Stoops took action sending several non-participants to the house and bringing Mike back to run the defense.
I admire this team and Landry Jones in particular for gutting up and winning the last three games but the SOONERS could just as easily be 7 and 5 right now. I realize that luck is part of football.
I think we've been in a downward spiral but more the result of an average QB and a poor Defenesive Co-ordinator than bad recruiting. Recruiting hasn't changed that much. Stoops has never been a great one.
I think we need to face the fact that Bob is an above average coach but just an average recruiter. I think if all goes well we'll be back to at least losing national championships in a couple of years. I don't think Bob will ever have the talent that Saban and some others have now, but I'm not sure the King would be able to recruit that sort of talent to OU today, if he played by the rules.
Slow decline. I see. Because we're not playing for the NC every year. Okay.
After we got Tebowed, UF finished 2009 at number 5. In 2010, they were OUT of the top 25 in the final BCS standings. Same for 2011. Now they're still not playing for the NC, so at #3, they're still a failure, right?
Compare that to OU. We were out of the BCS in 2009, then in 2010 finished the year at 7. 2011 found us at 14, and in 2012 we're currently at 11.
I swear, some of you think we should be a combination of LSU and Alabama, with a Lee Roy Selmon recruited every year for good measure. Are there things that need to be addressed? Sure, and I hope that our O line goes a year or maybe two without getting crushed with injuries. Our D line could do with a stud. That being said, Chuka Ndulue was JUST A SOPHOMORE. He could be the Next Guy. We'll see. That being said, I'm going to take my chances with Bob.
Stoops will not fire any assistants no matter what the fans want .. Bob is comfortable with his millions coming in. He doesn't see a problem. We need a head coach to come in and bring some assistants who can recruit and who are hungry to win a NC.. OU is a great program and needs a head coach.
Well, I guess you MUST be talking about Bob hiring his out of work brother ? I think that was a good move. Now, Make a point please ? Where in my post did I say Bob hasn't made a change ? Come on now show me ?
My view on the subject: We could be better.
BTW, I say Martinez would still be at OU if not for Bob making room for his brother.. I believe that and I doubt I'm the only one.
Well what do you know... Raise your hand if you are surprised that this thread has deteriorated to Boomer Magic(someone has to fill in for Byrk) verbally shitting all over the place ... Nobody? Yea didn't figure it would surprise anyone
Good thread for discussion even though I disagree with your premise BH ... I rate it 5 stars
Records aside more than a few times OU has played a higher brand of football than what we have seen this season.
A few high end DT’s and more good OL are the 2 biggest things we are missing.
Throw in a quality middle linebacker and we might be missing about 7 to 9 players.
Bob fired Martinez and Pelini. Also tell us Castiglione's policy for firing coaches. Just wanting to see if you know or if you always talk our of your culo.
The defense gave up 4.8 ypc this year, way more than the 3.7 ypc in 2011 and 4.1 in 2010
I believe we return everyone but Lane Johnson.
The lack of a Big 12 championship game is part of this.
DD Williams was a bigger get, imho.
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Despite the sky is falling attitude of some we are very close to the top there is not much difference in where we are and where the top 2 teams are this season. I have confidence that before the current Fr. class graduates we will have had at least one more shot at #8.
Last edited by soonerintn; July 20th, 2013 at 01:27 AM.
I think we have fundamental differences of opinion about where certain aspects of our team is in relation to the SEC teams that you mention so I do not see us agreeing on much when it comes to this conversation so I won't go a ton further but.....
FWIW A&M beat 'Bama with a BigXII style team this season and w/o the typical aggie fade in the 2nd half the game wouldn't have been close. Obviously our style of play is different than what 'Bama and LSU puts out there and I do not see that changing anytime soon. However if we get a legit game changer at QB for instance(From multiple sources I hear Trevor Knight might just be that guy fwiw) then I think us reaching our goals might be closer than we all are currently imagining.
Anyways I think as Mike's influence on the D increases we will see it become more opportunistic which can cover up for a number of deficiencies which will help as Mike continues to beef up the front 7 IMO. We are not as far as some think from being on top again.
oh and by the way, its playoffs you idiot. you don't have to be the best team to win it all ... just the best team for two games, sincerely NY Giants.
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