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It is an interesting view to have, but I don't subscribe to it.romans 2
13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another; )
I'm still waiting for an explanation of which Christian values Johnny Football displayed on Saturday night.
do you subscribe to the idea that morals are independent of God?
Last edited by 87sooner; December 13th, 2012 at 12:19 AM.
Not believing in moral relativism is asinine.
Does someone constantly abused or raised in a feral environment possess the same moral conscious as you?
The Ersland case is a great example of this on a micro level.
Can we get back to posting pictures of Johnny's girlfriend?
that doesn't mean we don't have a pre-progammed conscience that tells us what is right and wrong.....
And if free will can be corrupted along with the conscious, what is its use?
adam/eve gained knowledge of good/evil after eating from the tree of knowledge....
how do you think their offspring gained that knowledge?
It brings up another interesting point though...if Adam and Eve were given the construct of Right/Wrong by the serpent, is that definition to be trusted?
Meaning, Adam and Eve covered their loins out of embarrassment, is this actually morally right, or a ****ization of conscious?
immediately upon eating the fruit......their "eyes were opened"....they instantly gained consciousness of right/wrong.....
and every person since was born with the same conscience....
The serpent wanted them to gain this knowledge...why?
So why does a baby not hide its genitals and defecate in public...a terribly stubborn free will?
So God didn't want us to have a conscious, but the Serpent bestowed upon us (vicariously) moral virtue at birth?
What about tribal peoples that do not gird their loins...
How about consumption of alcohol (which Jesus did?)
(It feels like I'm playing the role of serpent here...ugh)
Also, that particular change in worship came long before a scientific understanding of chemical dependence.
There is no need to play like it was done for reasons other than the moral ambiguity of alcohol especially in Post-colonial America.