And good luck thinking that the extra tax money from gun sales would go anywhere except into a black hole.
We've decided that airplanes are a priority, perhaps our schools and children are, also.
Perhaps an armed and trained security guard would be better with his firearm than a mentally challenged 20 year old who stole his mother's guns?
You can argue anything to absurdity. I'm not saying that we can eliminate danger. Nonetheless, schools and children in them are particularly vulnerable, so perhaps it isn't ludicrous that we do a better job of protecting them.
Not sure if there is any data or enough data (thank goodness!) to determine if guards currently act as a deterrent where they are in place. That would give us an indication if additional security measures would be successful. I thought I had read a study awhile back that having guards and metal dectectors in schools actually increased fighting and other forms of violence (will have to look for that again).
I'm frustrated that I keep seeing people using this tragedy to promote agendas. Antigun agendas, God in schools agendas, healthcare agendas, etc. I'm checked by security every time I walk into the Chesapeake. I don't feel imprisoned while I'm there. Having a security guard at schools is simple, not prohibitively expensive, and protects children who cannot protect themselves. It is not draconian, nor impractical, and it does not infringe upon liberty.
Also, he fired off 100 rounds while he was not being opposed by an armed individual. It's dramatically easier to kill people who are not shooting back at you.
People want to address the weapon used instead of the cause that led up to the violence.
This is how some of the idiots on this board would react.
22 school aged kids were injured in a knife attack... as opposed to 20 kids dead in a gun attack. I wouldn't want any child to go through anything like this and it doesn't address the mental illness of the person committing either act, but it appears that the odds of surviving were greater in one attack over the other.
I went out and pulled some data from the 2011 CDC National Vital Statistics Report. Its long but pleas take the time to read it.
Deaths in the U.S . 2011
~Source - Data for 2011. National Vital Statistics DHHS, CDC
Total deaths 2,512,873 - 99.99995% not caused by firearms!
Top 15 causes of deaths
All 15 except number 5 are from diseases. 23,900,096 deaths are from health related causes, Heart disease, cancer, etc… Thats 95.1% of all deaths.
The 5th leading cause of death is accidents which account for 122,777 deaths
Top 5 accidents
Motor vehicle accidents - 34,677 deaths - 28.2% of accidental deaths are caused by motor vehicles. Why is there no outcry to ban motor vehicles? Motor vehicles accidentally killed 33,826 more people than firearms did in 2011
Accidental poisoning - 33,554 deaths - 27.3% of accidental deaths are caused by accidental poisoning. Why is there no outcry to ban poisons and household chemicals?? Accidental poisoning accidentally killed 32,703 more people than firearms did in 2011
Falls - 26,631 deaths - 21.69% of accidental deaths are caused by falls. Why is there no outcry to ban high places and gravity?? Falls accidentally killed 25,780 more people than firearms did in 2011
Other Unspecified Non-transportation - 18,289 14.9%
Drowning - 3, 555 deaths - 2.9% of accidental deaths are caused by drowning. Why is there no outcry to ban people from pools, lakes, and oceans ?? Drowning accidentally killed 2,704 more people than firearms did in 2011
Coming in at number 10 - Accidental discharge of firearms - 851 - 0.69% of accidental deaths.
Non Accidental Deaths - Non Disease
Unlike Accidents the following deaths are senseless deaths caused by the irresponsible, sick, troubled or murderous felons.
Drug induced deaths - 40, 239 preventable deaths by just not abusing drugs. While there is not much outcry about drugs anymore, state governments are making it easier for people to use drugs by passing laws making them legal.
Suicide - 38,258 deaths
Alcohol induced deaths - 26,256, preventable deaths by just not abusing alcohol. Where is the outcry to ban alcohol? Alcohol kills twice as many people each year in the U.S. than firearms do!
Homicide - 15, 953 deaths. Which is 0.63% of the total deaths in the us each year. Theses deaths are caused by sick murderous people with the intent to kill others. That intent will manifest itself in many forms and be carried out in numerous ways with numerous weapons. If someone is intent to kill they are going to find a way to do it. If they want to to kill a group of people and don't have access to a gun there are many ways to get the job done. Cars, bombs, car bombs, etc... just ask Timothy McVeigh.
^^^^As always, stop bringing facts into this discussion^^^^
So drugs kill almost three times as many as homicides. We can't legalize those fast enough, can we?
To JDShellnut's point; how many of those vehicle deaths happened because of one person/incident? Or poisonings? No one tries to go out in a blaze of glory by drowning countless kids. Until we can find away to identify the crazies before they can do harm, we have to look at how we can limit Joe Blow from collateral damage.
Guns should be made illegal and taken away from everyone.
As an avid gun-lover, I am willing to subscribe to stricter gun laws if I am guaranteed, or shown that the said gun laws will prevent and stop these kind of tragedies. However, I sense the "ban guns" crowd is fueled by a desire to punish someone. Human logic works in this manner: something bad is done, so someone has to pay. When the shooter kills himself, the anger turn to the tools like guns, and to those millions of Americans who own guns and are law-abiding citizens.
Why stricter, or banning guns would not work:
1.The US constitution would be violated.
2. Evil is present with or without guns.
3. There are too many guns out there.
4. Criminals would still have guns, while law-abiding citizen would not.
5. The black-market would be flooded with guns from Mexico.
PS: Must suck living in those ME countries where kids die regularly.
I'm pretty sure I'd disobey a direct order to collect firearms. It would be unlawful and I would like to keep living.
Id obey it and lead the way and would live.