Texas **** Allegations

[TenYards]

[OU812]

Akin wasn't completely wrong. If you know physiology, then you will know that akin was closer to being right than being wrong.

**** can be consensual ****, but still considered ****(statutory ****). Legitimate ****, as has been discussed in congress, is basically forcible ****.

Now, for the physiology lesson. For men to progress thru the ****ual cycle, there must be a balance and order of the parasympathetic and sympathetic nervous systems. The parasympathetic system cause the erection(think P for Point). The sympathetic system causes you to ejaculate( think S for shoot). If the sympathetic system gets amped up too soon, you get performance anxiety(no erection) or premature ejaculation. Some drugs artificially cause this imbalance, as well. So, if a gun or knife were held to your head, the sympathetic system would override the parasympathetic system and you couldn't get an erection. Your body would "shut that down".

Women go thru similar changes that facilitate pregnancy. The parasympathetic system causes ****l congestion and moisture. This helps with mobility of the sperm and, I believe, with the pH the sperm lives in. If a woman is forcibly ****d or not consenting, then her body doesn't facilite the process. Of course she can still get pregnant, but the odds should decrease. Women, however, have been told to to get rid of the evidence. So, that affects the amount of sperm and time of contact with the sperm which will increase their risk of pregnancy.

Bottom line, akin wasn't completely wrong with his physiology, but he was dumb to say it because 99.9% of people won't know or understand what I just posted.

I understand the physiology. Drawing the conclusion that its impossible to get pregnant from legitimate **** is ignorant and its false. To take this flawed argument and speak about it in a political context, as though you're an authority or its based on scientific fact, is irresponsible.

[soonerprices]

Does Hicks know he has a tumor in the right side of his neck.

[beelzeBob]

Compliments of

If anyone is safe from prison **** it's that ugly SOB.

[85sooners]

****s

[soonerintn]

I understand the physiology. Drawing the conclusion that its impossible to get pregnant from legitimate **** is ignorant and its false. To take this flawed argument and speak about it in a political context, as though you're an authority or its based on scientific fact, is irresponsible.

No, your kneejerk reaction to his quote is very irresponsible, especially when you don't understand the physiology. An attempt to explain and educate the public is not irresponsible on my part.

Here is his quote. “It seems to me, from what I understand from doctors, that’s really rare,” Akin told KTVI-TV. “If it’s a legitimate ****, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. But let’s ****ume that maybe that didn’t work or something: I think there should be some punishment, but the punishment ought to be of the rapist, and not attacking the child.”

I seriously doubt he knew the physiology that I just discussed. But he wasn't completely wrong in what he said. And some doctor may have tried to explain the ****ual response to him. No where in that quote did he say it is impossible to get pregnant from ****.

[m2thakizzle]

Do the police have to make an arrest for charges to be filed against someone for a crime? If not, then I would think some prosecutor is just chomping at the bit to try and make a name for themself on a high profile case like this. I believe this was the biggest reason the Duke lacrosse case went as far as it did. The da was dead set on getting a conviction in a profile case at all costs. On the flip side, it is UT football players, and they do tend to get lots of help from the litigation community down in Texas.

[Bruno Gianelli]

First you need to read every comment I made on this to understand and you haven't told me anything I didn't already know except the fact if I were ever charged in a crime where my accuser sat on the witness stand and clearly stated they weren't sure whether they told me it was ok or not to do what I did I am better off hiring the guy who delivered my pizza last night than you to defend me.

I read your comments. Even if she testifies under oath that she can't remember whether she consented to **** or not, that statement has very little bearing on the outcome of the case, especially if the prosecution's argument is that she was incapable of consent, the statements of the witnesses don't conform, etc.

I know that the concept of prepping and trying a case is completely lost on you, as it should be. And you aren't happy that you got owned on this thread. And that you are desperately trying to save face with idiotic insults about my competency to litigate.

But don't ****ing sit there and tell me you know one GD thing about prosecuting a case, and then tell me I don't know what I am talking about. You don't know **** about this subject.

[greenfacedman]

Why don't we wait until the results from the investigation are heard,this feeding frenzy by these "experts" is worse than watching CNN this last week and the pissing contest going on in DC.

[Jbaker]

Oh please, you think it's okay to have **** with a woman who is so drunk she may not remember it the next day? Or remember she gave consent?

Plenty of men wake up every morning next to a woman wondering how they get there.
Does that mean all those men were ****d?

[greenfacedman]

Plenty of men wake up every morning next to a woman wondering how they get there.
Does that mean all those men were ****d?

No,just stupid.

[SoonerBounce]

I understand the physiology. Drawing the conclusion that its impossible to get pregnant from legitimate **** is ignorant and its false. To take this flawed argument and speak about it in a political context, as though you're an authority or its based on scientific fact, is irresponsible.

He never said it was impossible

[greensooner]

If you were too drunk to remember if you gave consent, then the person was too drunk to give consent. You think if a woman is drunk, she is giving implied consent to **** her? Seriously you actually think that?

[marfacowboy]

I have no tolerance for rapists. I think they should all be hung. This bunch in India should be flayed.

[lycao]

I can't believe there are people actually defending Akin.

[tennsooner]

I read your comments. Even if she testifies under oath that she can't remember whether she consented to **** or not, that statement has very little bearing on the outcome of the case, especially if the prosecution's argument is that she was incapable of consent, the statements of the witnesses don't conform, etc.

I know that the concept of prepping and trying a case is completely lost on you, as it should be. And you aren't happy that you got owned on this thread. And that you are desperately trying to save face with idiotic insults about my competency to litigate.

But don't ****ing sit there and tell me you know one GD thing about prosecuting a case, and then tell me I don't know what I am talking about. You don't know **** about this subject.

You are delusional. If anyone made an **** of them self here it was you for your failure to read and comprehend. I would say the fact you do something sure doesn't prove you are good at it. As far as ownership I think you over estimate yourself there as well. Again and I know this is hard for you but what I said was if she said she didn't know if she consented if an attorney is worth his salt there is no way a jury would convict. If you know otherwise post a link.
Try to concentrate here and understand I am not saying she said she was so drunk she couldn't consent.

[OrangeBlossom]

[Shooterms]

I have no tolerance for rapists. I think they should all be hung. This bunch in India should be flayed.

It would have been nice if the rapists in India had been shot dead at the scene by who would have been the intended victim.

[Bruno Gianelli]

Again and I know this is hard for you but what I said was if she said she didn't know if she consented if an attorney is worth his salt there is no way a jury would convict.

And again, you are dead**** wrong. There are too many variables to make such a definitive statement. She could absolutely testify that she didn't know whether she consented or not, and the perp could be convicted. But you are too GD stupid to realize that. And you don't have the education or experience to realize how stupid you sound.

This argument is akin to me questioning you about the proper consistency of a Icee.

[Backintheday]

At UT, "No" means "Have another drink"

[soonerprices]

You are delusional. If anyone made an **** of them self here it was you for your failure to read and comprehend. I would say the fact you do something sure doesn't prove you are good at it. As far as ownership I think you over estimate yourself there as well. Again and I know this is hard for you but what I said was if she said she didn't know if she consented if an attorney is worth his salt there is no way a jury would convict. If you know otherwise post a link.
Try to concentrate here and understand I am not saying she said she was so drunk she couldn't consent.

And what he said was that means nothing and have you several reasons why it would mean nothing and that a conviction was still possible.

[sundowner]

I once went home at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2

[tennsooner]

And again, you are dead**** wrong. There are too many variables to make such a definitive statement. She could absolutely testify that she didn't know whether she consented or not, and the perp could be convicted. But you are too GD stupid to realize that. And you don't have the education or experience to realize how stupid you sound.

This argument is akin to me questioning you about the proper consistency of a Icee.

Here again "Internet counsellor" let me make it easy for you if there is such a thing. I agree with this man

"In most of these kinds of cases, particularly when there's alcohol involved, you're looking to see if the person has consented," said Austin criminal defense attorney Perry Minton, who is not ****ociated with the case.
After reading the report, Minton says it does not appear the woman recalls if she consented to having **** or not.""The unfortunate thing is if you cannot remember whether or not you gave consent the state is going to have an impossible time of putting somebody in jail for it,"

He not only is known for actually practicing law on the net but he does it in real life and damn if the two of us don't agree. Note both he and I are NOT ****ociated with the case. Sorry but you lose this one as well. Perhaps you need to do some Icee research because it seems you lack a bit on your law training.He is saying exactly what I am saying. Does he sound stupid as well?


If you intend to defend your misguided opinion read up on reasonable doubt so I won't have to start from the beginning on that.

[RockFlagandEagle]

I once went home at 2 with a 10 and woke up at 10 with a 2

Who are you...Willie Nelson?

[tennsooner]

And what he said was that means nothing and have you several reasons why it would mean nothing and that a conviction was still possible.

According to those in the know he is as wrong on this as well.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/a...ighly-unlikely again this man is someone who knows.

[Soonerlife]

According to those in the know he is as wrong on this as well.

http://www.kxan.com/dpp/news/local/a...ighly-unlikely again this man is someone who knows.

So you believe one attorney on the internet over another attorney on the internet?

[usaosooner]

POST THIS **** IN OC OR TD YOU ****S


have a nice day

[Bruno Gianelli]

Here again "Internet counsellor" let me make it easy for you if there is such a thing. I agree with this man

"In most of these kinds of cases, particularly when there's alcohol involved, you're looking to see if the person has consented," said Austin criminal defense attorney Perry Minton, who is not ****ociated with the case.
After reading the report, Minton says it does not appear the woman recalls if she consented to having **** or not.""The unfortunate thing is if you cannot remember whether or not you gave consent the state is going to have an impossible time of putting somebody in jail for it,"

He not only is known for actually practicing law on the net but he does it in real life and damn if the two of us don't agree. Note both he and I are NOT ****ociated with the case. Sorry but you lose this one as well. Perhaps you need to do some Icee research because it seems you lack a bit on your law training.He is saying exactly what I am saying. Does he sound stupid as well?


If you intend to defend your misguided opinion read up on reasonable doubt so I won't have to start from the beginning on that.

I think some of the other response to your posts stand on their own merit.

[tennsooner]

I think some of the other response to your posts stand on their own merit.

I do hope you are comforted by others who are misguided as you are.

Well it has been fun but I'm off to my job making Icee's at the 7-11. I'm sure you are worn out as well and I know if you are here arguing with me there is an empty seat on the trash truck somewhere and I'm sure you are missed.

[DirtySouth_Sooner]

mccoy needs to hire the texas hammer for his lawyer ... that guy sounds mean as **** on the radio.

[sundowner]

Who are you...Willie Nelson?

"Mamas don't let your babies grow up to be cowboys"...

Hey now, someone needs to chill the mood in here. The 'lawyers' are stinkin' up the joint.

[beelzeBob]

I do hope you are comforted by others who are misguided as you are.

Well it has been fun but I'm off to my job making Icee's at the 7-11. I'm sure you are worn out as well and I know if you are here arguing with me there is an empty seat on the trash truck somewhere and I'm sure you are missed.

Your arguments are weak brah.

[greensooner]

I think this guy could be helpful in sorting out this mess

[soonerprices]

I think this guy could be helpful in sorting out this mess

Can you post that in this thread?

[greensooner]

Can you post that in this thread?

you know what it's from don't you? analyst/therapist from arrested development

[meandmybutt]

I've been so drunk that I didn't remember having ****. Was I '****d'?

Possibly

[soonerprices]

you know what it's from don't you? analyst/therapist from arrested development

I was being a smart ****. I didn't see anything wrong with the debate about if the girls comments caused this case to be a win for the rapists. But the admin didn't like it I guess. Posting pictures making fun a McCoy and Hicks is ok but debate about the possible court case isn't. I don't get it.

[eightisgreat]

I find it hilarious that you guys act like an after bar party in a hotel room when you're staying at a hotel is odd. Did you actually GO to college? We did **** like that all the time and I can count on one finger how many times it turned into an orgy (though that's a pretty fun memory!).

Did you pitch or catch?

[meandmybutt]

mccoy needs to hire the texas hammer for his lawyer ... that guy sounds mean as **** on the radio.

He's meaner than a junkyard dog. He doesn't bark, he bites. The Hammer will get you every penny you deserve.

But seriously, the Hammer goes for clients that want to sue for money they dont deserve. The Hammer doesn't look to defend alleged criminals. He would more likely be her lawyer suing the players and the university (some trumped up bull**** reason).

[Rockgod]

Hicks will walk.http://www.mbfc.com/

[TheKing]

^ misleading post. I swear some of you guys post things that have no meaning just to make this thread longer. Wait until some new information comes out then post it. ****.

[RockFlagandEagle]

ATTICA!!!

[soonerchoctaw]

ATTICA!!!

High School or College?

[SoCaliSooner]

I'm not buying the whole **** thing. My hunch is that chick got drunk and her inner party chick came out and he wanted a threesome with some football players. Once she sobered up she probably felt used and embarrassed and had a big case of the "oh ****'s" and realized shed have to explain to her friends how she ho bagged out. Still buzzed, she thinks that selling the "I was ****d" story will be easier than saying "I got wasted and boned two guys I don't know who left my **** after one of them got some."

In the report she even mentions feeling "ashamed to say this", which leads me to believe the cops think the same thing. If they were pretty sure she was ****d, those two guys would be sitting in jail right now. She's more ashamed that her friends probably warned her not to go get laid and now she's going to tweak the situation where here circle of chicks will look on her with sympathy instead of disgust.

[Aurora]

I'm not buying the whole **** thing. My hunch is that chick got drunk and her inner party chick came out and he wanted a threesome with some football players. Once she sobered up she probably felt used and embarrassed and had a big case of the "oh ****'s" and realized shed have to explain to her friends how she ho bagged out. Still buzzed, she thinks that selling the "I was ****d" story will be easier than saying "I got wasted and boned two guys I don't know who left my **** after one of them got some."

In the report she even mentions feeling "ashamed to say this", which leads me to believe the cops think the same thing. If they were pretty sure she was ****d, those two guys would be sitting in jail right now. She's more ashamed that her friends probably warned her not to go get laid and now she's going to tweak the situation where here circle of chicks will look on her with sympathy instead of disgust.

If this is the case she needs new friends because a threesome and some random **** is really a non issue and no friend should see it as such unless it is your boy friend

The Dark Side

[TenYards]

Double post

[SoCaliSooner]

If this is the case she needs new friends because a threesome and some random **** is really a non issue and no friend should see it as such unless it is your boy friend

The Dark Side

Seriously?

If a chick is alone in a bar, she's there to get laid.

If she's there with a group of friends, they are the biggest **** blockers out there..,especially the fat friend. Nobody is as cruel and judgmental about a chicks ****ual proclivities like her friends are. They'll straight up gossip about that ho all while pretending to have her best interests in mind.

[DirtySouth_Sooner]

I'm not buying the whole **** thing. My hunch is that chick got drunk and her inner party chick came out and he wanted a threesome with some football players. Once she sobered up she probably felt used and embarrassed and had a big case of the "oh ****'s" and realized shed have to explain to her friends how she ho bagged out. Still buzzed, she thinks that selling the "I was ****d" story will be easier than saying "I got wasted and boned two guys I don't know who left my **** after one of them got some."

**** your an idiot ... so a girl who is embarrassed/ashamed of what happened would think it's easier to go to cops/media/public? She's too embarrassed to tell her friends but not embarrassed to tell the world and the scrutiny she would receive from the longhorn fan base?

hey dip**** ... I'm not say that she is not lying ... but for you to think its easy to tell the world you've been ****d is you pure stupidity on your part.

[cccasooner2]

I think you all got it wrong. Remember the "Brokeback" picture? Case and Hicks were getting it on consentually. The drunk girl was claiming she was forced to watch.

[SoCaliSooner]

**** your an idiot ... so a girl who is embarrassed/ashamed of what happened would think it's easier to go to cops/media/public? She's too embarrassed to tell her friends but not embarrassed to tell the world and the scrutiny she would receive from the longhorn fan base?

hey dip**** ... I'm not say that she is not lying ... but for you to think its easy to tell the world you've been ****d is you pure stupidity on your part.

She didn't tell "the world", she was still smelling like booze and called the cops.

I've seen many a chick call 911 and claim she was ****d. Cops and fire get there and you find out she's just pissed off that some dude had a wife, girfriend, didn't make love to her all night like he said he would at the club and just pumped a few times..nutted...and left, or how was she going to explain having fun to her churchy friends...there's endless times that a **** call has not been the case at all.