I guess thats the world making the rounds. 5 DL 2 LB 4 DBs I like it
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50 front vs A&M
I guess thats the world making the rounds. 5 DL 2 LB 4 DBs I like it
I was hoping this would be the case. Rolled the 50 out a few yrs ago with some success...
Ndule, Walker, MacFarland, King, Washington
............... Wort, Nelson
........ Colvin, Harris, Jefferson, Hurst
Phillps to rotate in for Walker, King and MacFarland
Grissom, Tapper, Ohanaho (sp?) to rotate in for Ndule, Grissom
Shannon, Byrd to rotate in for Wort, Nelson.
Lynn, Wilson, Paulsen to rotate in for Colvin, Harris, Jefferson and Hurst.
That sound right?
Last edited by oorah_okie; 12-31-2012 at 04:13 PM.
I'd play Shannon instead of Wort but other than that yepOriginally Posted by oorah_okie
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And who gives the front 5 a breather?
Not happening.
Yeah, it got OU thru the OSU, NU, UConn strecth in 2010. But when they tried to roll it over into 2011 (after teams got plenty of film on it), it busted.
if there was ever a time we needed wort to show up, it'd be at the cotton bowl.
Edited the post to throw in subs.
Maybe as a change of pace, but they don't have the horses to run it as the base.
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OU has 5 DLs? Must be converting some TEs.
I also vote for deleting this thread so TeLePhOnO won't take this to the aTm coaches.
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Last time we ran this we basically ran 4 defense ends and a nose guard and then some time replaced the NG with a DE and brought in 2 DT right?
probably play more DB's and biltz nelson off the edge ... always works on the video game.
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2nd level is going to be most vulnerable against Manziel, we just go with 2 LB's were screwed.
We won't get much more pressure rushing 5 as we would only rushing 4, even if we did Manziel will just take off and get around them. Give me another linebacker or two and delay blitz from all 3 or 4.
aTm can run the ball and it isn't just Manziel. We can't possibly roll that same POS run defense out there that has been gashed all season and expect to contain aTm's running game and Manziel. If we had at least 2 all world LB's fine, but we don't.
Our base d is pretty sound, it's when they spread us out and we go dime is that we have primarily given up so much to the run. I would hope our coaches might try to do something a bit different in those situations but I'm not optimistic.
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I like the 50 scheme, not sure we have the personnel necessary to run it successfully throughout the entire game... We'll shall see.
I sure hope they don't do something stupid like try to spy Manziel with Wort.
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That would be the most unfair matchup in the history of sports.
I'm steadfast in my position that Wort take the 15 yarder and plant a helmet-to-helmet to JF and put him in the ER. My thoughts and prayers will go out to JF and his family.
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The 2 DE's on a 5-0 or 5-2 will be essentially OLB. Doesn't have to be DE only. I'm sure we will bring down a LB or DB to contain the outside to change things up.
Basically bama plays a 3-4, but their OLB's are as big as our DEs. They were way to aggressive early. WHen they played more contain, they held Manzeil in check.
Would like to see it mixed in some, but don't think we have the right personnel to make it a major part of the d. Of course if they do it and succeed I'll be happy to eat crow.
This would be my concern as well, specifically we don't have the huge space eating NT.
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Right. When we ran the 50 defense we had more talent at DE.
Wish they'd wait to pull it out in the 2nd half (4th Q mainly). That's when our D tends to wilt.
Play a 3-3-5 like Bama did.
Do we have 3 LB you want on the field at the same time?
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This! When they spread us out and motion the back out of the backfield we need to have an automatic adjustment to zone from man to man. So Wort/Shannon doesn't follow the back out and open the middle of the field for the QB draw over and over and over and over.
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50 dbs on the field at the same time? Awesome!
Exactly what i was thinking. Bird needs to see the field this game, DE/OLB in a odd front would be perfect.
Shannon, Bird, Nelson
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Is Washington hurt?
If not he will be one of the DEs
Oops. Thanks for the catch. Corrected post #3.
That looks like a NO to me.
The 50 front totally blew the pukes mind in 2010. Martinez didn't do crap in the title game. Of course we had a couple of smart, fast LBs in Lewis and Box, who made many big plays down the stretch.
I think Frank Shannon's up for the task.
Over Grissom? Unlikely given what we saw at the end of the season. Grissom passed RJ on the depth chart. They went to him in OT of Bedlam when King got hurt and he played down the stretch against TCU while RJ sat.
Washington best fits the role of the hybrid that would be needed in the 50. Possible that we could trust Grissom in coverage, but RJ is more proven in that regard.
Say what? How has RJ "proven" himself in coverage? He and Geneo are similiar body type, but Geneo is not a liability against the run, more ****ignment sound and stronger at the POA. There is a reason RJ has been relegated to a situational p**** rusher and observer in recent weeks and it isn't because he is the secret weapon on the edge to help contain Manziel. Hell, contain is probably the worst aspect of his game. He will be a liability against A&M and I would say "outside of obvious passing situations," but RJ is probably the worst DE OU has when things breakdown and a QB starts improvising. Runs himself out of way too many plays.
He looked pretty good at LB against the bong horns. Would you trust Geneo at LB...why or why not?
Yes, I would trust Geneo out there with a month to prepare. I honestly doubt they man an odd front with 5 DL and instead use a backer as the drop OLB, so the other OLB will be a contain/rush player. RJ sucks at contain and gets way too far inside often leaving huge cutback lanes. Hey, I hope he proves me wrong, but I won't be holding my breath.
EJ, good to see you posting over here?
Appreciate it, nole.
DE-Jefferson
DT-Shannon
DT-Byrd
DE-Nelson
Floater-Colvin
LB-Walker
LB-King
FS-Hurst
DB-Stoops
DB-Stoops
SS-Roy Williams
Is this official?
Floater...poor Colvin.
ftfy
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Yeah why the **** not
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