A culture of ****

[brokebacksooner]

They also don't have the same rights and privileges that women do here either. Isn't the caste system still alive and well in that country?

Officially the caste system is abolished. Unofficially, while dying, it is still alive and well. Several things really jumped out a me:

1. In the office there are people whose only job is to go around and pick up the dinner plates and coffee cups from the workers desks and clean them.
2. In the office it is very clear that the worker bees will never be considered for management positions even though many are smarter and work harder than their managers. You do not move up in the ranks.
3. In the hotels, there is a secured wing where single women stay. They don't have a choice and these are hotels that cater to foreigners.
4. The hotels and finer homes all have walls, gates and armed security guards. Even in the areas where the best hotels are, you do not go outside the walls for a walk after dark

The most vivid memory I have is riding down a street and seeing a little girl get up from using the bathroom. No privacy, nothing to clean herself. My driver never even noticed her because she was beneath him. I've been to a lot of poor places in the US and have never seen anything that heartbreaking.

[Jenn and tonic]

Nole, you may want to read post #15 on this thread and then go back to tagging your cruise pictures where you bored hapless tourists by repeating your story about how you and your family are OU fans.

Jenn is presenting a 2nd person account that lasted for 2 years whereas I spent 19. 2nd person account, 2 years, and a conversation which also includes a country that is notorious for Islamic rule. Sorry, me thinks she's confusing the two. If not, she's flatout wrong.

I didn't read your posts, I was just replying to the topic at hand....sounds like my post pissed you off or something. Wow.

And while from what my friend described, Saudi Arabia sounds much worse than India, for her safety's sake she NEVER went anywhere unescorted, day or night, by her father or uncle in India. In America there are many more places where women can go out unescorted, much more resources at our disposal if someone is ****d or hurt, and a justice system, as well as aide for an abused or attacked woman.

India? Good luck on any of these; India is well known for its corrupt and insufficient police force and justice system.....unless, of course, you happen to be attacked and it makes the news outside of India. Or you happen to be rich. You don't even have to live in India to see any of that. Would I want my kids living in a place like that? Hell no!

Sure, this is second hand account but I disagree wholeheatedly with the idea that women would be safer in India than here, and again feel very lucky to have been born and raised here.

[nolesooner]

Nole, you may want to read post #15 on this thread and then go back to tagging your cruise pictures where you bored hapless tourists by repeating your story about how you and your family are OU fans.

Jenn is presenting a 2nd person account that lasted for 2 years whereas I spent 19. 2nd person account, 2 years, and a conversation which also includes a country that is notorious for Islamic rule. Sorry, me thinks she's confusing the two. If not, she's flatout wrong.

Im sorry. I couldn't stay focused on your post while wading through your condescending tone. Typical of an intellectual though.