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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Gonna go ahead and start this now so we can discuss it.

    I think everyone has this in their Top 4 bowl games of the year.

    Listening to The Rush segment with Jake Trotter today and I think Trotter put it best, Oregon is essentially Baylor on roids, so for K-State to win this, they have to win the first quarter, which will probably be the most telling.

    Gotta love this match-up, the Ducks high-speed offense vs the Wildcats unstoppable grinding machine. I originally picked Oregon to win, but with the distractions going on with Chip Kelly, I'm now picking Kansas State. As with every game this season, Collin Klein will be the difference maker.

    K-State 45
    Oregon 39

    GO BIG 12!
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    This game is a tough one to predict. Part of me says that KState can't keep up with the Oregon offense but the other part says KState is well enough coached and has good enough athletes that they can play with anybody.

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    Originally Posted by oorah_okie View Post
    Gonna go ahead and start this now so when can discuss it.

    I think everyone has this in their Top 4 bowl games of the year.

    Listening to The Rush segment with Jake Trotter today and I think Trotter put it best, Oregon is essentially Baylor on roids, so for K-State to win this, they have to win the first quarter, which will probably be the most telling.

    Gotta love this match-up, the Ducks high-speed offense vs the Wildcats unstoppable grinding machine. I originally picked Oregon to win, but with the distractions going on with Chip Kelly, I'm now picking Kansas State. As with every game this season, Collin Klein will be the difference maker.

    K-State 45
    Oregon 39

    GO BIG 12!
    As a BU diehard here is my take on Oregon:

    Offense: Same kind of scheme with athletic but less consistent WR's and a fast but young and streaky QB that I would not take over Florence at this point in his career. Similar OL although BU protects the passer a hair better. BU has more balance IMO.

    Defense: Oregon is probably most like Tech schematically. Smaller & quicker with a penchant for bringing blitzes. Not the shutdown unit they have had in other years.


    Here is the writeup I did for Baylor247 on our offense against KSU's D.
    http://baylor.247sports.com/Article/...nalysis-103034

    It is going to be critical for KSU to put the game on Mariota either by dropping a safety down or tightening the alignment of their WLB & Nickel LB.

    On the other side of the ball Oregon LOVES to bring pressure and frequently uses single coverage. Klein must make them pay for it.

    KSU has a good shot here as I don't have nearly as much respect for UO's passing game as our own. Frankly it's been the biggest thing holding them back ever since Dennis Dixon went down mid-2007. Yeah they get quality stats but so does David Ash a lot of the time and that doesn't mean jack. It's about how they get those numbers and what throws they are asked to make. I really think they are a spread version of Bama- tough to defend in the air when the run is clicking and you must account for it. Average at best without the run threat.

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    I kinda agree with the comparison of Oregon to Baylor except Oregon is far superior to Baylor. I think this game is going to be a wipe out of KSU by a far better team. KSU beat OU on the basis of one OU fumble recovery in the end zone. Take that away and it is a KSU loss. KSU has been the benefactor of a lot of luck this year and luck is a part of the winning equation.

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    I kinda agree with the comparison of Oregon to Baylor except Oregon is far superior to Baylor. I think this game is going to be a wipe out of KSU by a far better team. KSU beat OU on the basis of one OU fumble recovery in the end zone. Take that away and it is a KSU loss. KSU has been the benefactor of a lot of luck this year and luck is a part of the winning equation.
    Not on offense. Baylor is much better in the air and ever since Seastrunk entered the lineup BU runs it just as well.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerDick View Post
    I kinda agree with the comparison of Oregon to Baylor except Oregon is far superior to Baylor. I think this game is going to be a wipe out of KSU by a far better team. KSU beat OU on the basis of one OU fumble recovery in the end zone. Take that away and it is a KSU loss. KSU has been the benefactor of a lot of luck this year and luck is a part of the winning equation.
    Then luck will pull them through. Btw there is no such thing as luck. Only skill.

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    I know everyone looks at UO as this run and gun fast break team but they are a spread the defense out and run to the hole type of team. I see the Old Man with over a month to prepare a defense that has some pretty good players of its own. His teams don't make mistakes and can put some points up of their own. I'd love to see KSU win and will be pulling for them. I'm thinking a score in the 31-24 range.

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    Oregon has too much team speed for KSU. I agree with Soonerdick that KSU has gotten a ton of bounces and calls to go their way this year to put them where they are at. Can't make a living on lucky bounces and timely penalties. Having said that, if anybody knows how to make a game slow, tedious, and ugly it's Snyder. I hope KSU is able to pull this one out.

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Originally Posted by soonerprices View Post
    This game is a tough one to predict. Part of me says that KState can't keep up with the Oregon offense but the other part says KState is well enough coached and has good enough athletes that they can play with anybody.
    Chip Kelly doesn't think time of possession is an important factor in winning ball games. Bill Synder thinks TOP is the most important factor in winning ball games. This isn't quite the LSU/OSU match-up some wanted to see in last years BCSNCG, but it's the next best thing.


    And, good stuff as always, S-11.

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    KSU wins this one. Living on the west coast I get to watch a lot of the PAC12 games and I think KSU will do the same thing to Oregon that Stanford did. They will slow the game down, make it about TOP, take away the big plays and make Oregon work for every yard they get. KSU gets a lot of practice each season preparing for a team like Oregon.
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    the Pac is a bunch of cheaters. The hammer is about to fall on Oregon. Go purple!

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Originally Posted by S11-Baylor View Post
    Not on offense. Baylor is much better in the air and ever since Seastrunk entered the lineup BU runs it just as well.
    Who do you think would win between Oregon and Baylor? Score prediction?

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    Rooting for KSU because they're a Big 12 team, but Oregon will probably win this one.
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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Rece Davis and ESPN keeps saying the Fiesta Bowl is the only other game featuring two top 5 teams. Ummm... mathematically only two games can possibly feature two top 5 teams.

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Originally Posted by DrBrizzle View Post
    Who do you think would win between Oregon and Baylor? Score prediction?
    It would be a shoot out with UO probably winning. Neither team would consistently get stops but they'd probably get more.

    My point above was differentiating the offenses as I think KSU matches up better against UO than they did against BU.

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    Since this is just the pregame thread when will the actual game thread open?

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    I'm on the road right now and will be til 8:30.

    Some one pls describe Oregon's unis.

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    Man kstates Pom girls have nice un unis

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Originally Posted by soonerprices View Post
    Since this is just the pregame thread when will the actual game thread open?
    Where is our 24 hours prior Cotton Bowl game thread?

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    Damn, I had to go grab a towell after Lou's rant.

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    Man kstates Pom girls have nice un unis
    PICS OR GTFO

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    When I think BCS bowl games, Dave Mathews Band instantly comes to mind.

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    **** purple kansas....

    meh..**** the ducks too...

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

    Originally Posted by oorah_okie View Post
    Where is our 24 hours prior Cotton Bowl game thread?
    Just hanging on your balls man. Relax.

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    Any OU guys ever been in the Nissan Heisman House? Even pictures on wall? Just curious.

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    Horrible anthem

    Awesome eagle

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    Lost forever. Changed the channel and didn't have the game recorded

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    Horrible anthem

    Awesome eagle
    Yeah. The fans cheered for the eagle and I bet that attention **** thought it was for her.

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    Green pants. Shiny green helmets. White jerseys.

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    Is this game really not on national TV? Wtf? Over....

    Fvckin it live via tapatalk dos

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    Any OU guys ever been in the Nissan Heisman House? Even pictures on wall? Just curious.
    It would have to be Sam or Billy. Steve and Jason aren't recognizable names.

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    Yellow O logo on the back of the helmet, wings on the side.

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    Chip Kelly a bit of a smart ass to Holly.

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    Duck feathers on the shoulders m

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    Originally Posted by Turk View Post
    Is this game really not on national TV? Wtf? Over....

    Fvckin it live via tapatalk dos
    The Cotton Bowl's not at the Cotton Bowl? zOMG!!!1

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    Big XII goes down in a flaming pile of shit

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    Kansas State is going to get dry-humped by Oregon.

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    Shiny green numbers on the back of the uni.

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

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    Oregon's cheerleaders, said it many times but damn.

    Game! Go ducks I need my points.

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    Fiesta Bowl: K-State vs Oregon

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