I talked to Sam Bradford, who agrees with Adrian Peterson.
If u finna name drop, make sure it's not something named Auston English. Whatever that is.
I do love English tho, for that cheap shot on McCoy that wasn't called.
Current and former players are going to be all over place with opinions just like people on this board. Basically what it boils down to IMO is expectations. People who have higher expectations (winning a bowl game and being in the MNC picture) get embarrassed more quickly. Those of you whose expectations are a little lower (10+ wins is a good season) are not embarrassed as easily.
I ask those of you who think that the OP is a DA what would it take for you to think that OU is laughing stock of college football? Where ever that line is there will be people who think you're a DA for thinking that because there is always someone with lower expectations then your own.
Are there any former players who could come in and teach these "kids" how to tackle? You know just basic football.
Why not let the qb call his own plays, he couldn't have done any worse than the OC or the dummies on the sidelines. Wouldn't have to call as many timeouts....maybe...
Note to former players, if any of you guys have any stroke to help the football program would you please do so. thanks............
The most embarassing thing for me, as a fan and a loong time supporter of the program (financially and otherwise), is the quit I saw in our team -- players AND coaches. After the three 3 and outs to start the 2nd half, you could just see everyone deflate and from that point on, the outcome of the game was not in doubt. Worst display I have seen since 55-19...
I'm to the point I can't say anything nice about the OU program so why say anything at all? Doesn't matter if I want bob gone. Doesn't matter if I think he's past his prime. I think it does more harm griping about it then not.
Lot of fair weather fans
OU coaches must be great evaluators of undervalued in state talent.
We seem to win more now... But the errors are the same crap we were all so relieved to be rid of in 1999 when we could line up correctly..... Get plays off.... The wins in 99 were icing on the cake.
another thing ... did YOU think we were on a downward slump before the florida game or before the lsu game. like right before the game, did you actually say to yourself damn ... this team is going nowhere.
Teams that are on the upswing or better than OU
OSU (yes I said it)Uhh, what?UG
Based on what?OSU (yes I said it)
Are you familiar with irony?Outside of FSU who has OU beat worth a damn in a bowl game? Iowa? UConn? Washington? Ark? All very avg. or below avg teams at the time.
Teams that are on the upswing or better than OU
OSU (yes I said it)
In the end we really coudn't come up with a consensus so they all were in agreement that we might want to talk to some younger alums......
So tomorrow night we are going to conjure up Viv Nemacek, Jack Baer, Iron Mike Massad, Norval Locke and we are going to see if we can get Art and Bill Pansze
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I agree with many of the opinions here. I happen to know from a former safety how Bob questioned their heart after losing to Boise and compared their heart to the 2000 team. In his thick head it's never the coaches. Where I differ from original post is the "laughing stock" comment.
Until these coaches recruit some guys that can play D line again we are going to keep having this conversation every year.
I wasnt a long snapper, or former player, so my opinion is going to be like most the other "experts" on the board. But, the way I see it, Bob is too loyal, and has tried to hire with in the program and it has cost us big time. JH was not ready to take the play calling over...and he has proven that. I am not ready to kick Mike Stoops out yet, until I see what players HE can bring in. BUT, this could be his down fall, BV could bring the talent in and maybe it took both of them together to have the right recipe for a good defense? IDK. In the end, we dont have the talent anymore, and the reason for that can be pushed in many directions. We lose the big games that are on national TV, Recruits love a winner...look at the players going to ND now. I am not going to question Bob Stoops on how much "fire he has in his belly", but I do know the product he is putting on the field is not good. It starts with recuiting which we are behind, then it comes with coaching, and I think JH is way over his head. Defense I get so pissed off watching them. There are 2 players that play on that defense that I GUARANTEE would not start on TU's team. And I am not saying we are the laughing stock of college football, but I for one was completely embarrassed, and it seems to be a pattern as of late. Look at the teams that are heading up and the ones that are heading down. UT better make coaching changes as well...they are on a decline. Bama was bad years ago, but Saban came in and embraced the traditions and here we go. Same as Kelly at ND...tradition and then good coaching and here we go. Oregon I just think they are flashy because of their facilities and Phil Knight, they will prolly have good teams, but I just look at them the same...again my opinion. Long of short, I am very interested to see if thing happens after this loss. If Bob comes in and says golly gee we got beat, lets go back to work..and no changes, I am going to be amazed because EVERYONE sees the faults, and the changes that need to come, and he will once again let his loyalty stand in the way of the program.
fefferson said mini knew how to handle balls better than most anyone else.
Originally Posted by Soonerlife
EVERYONE? Hyperbole much..Link?the_edge;1024716]Find a post where you actually talk about football. It's not hyperbole if it's true.
Texas A&M - 1997, 1998, 2010, 2012 Big 12 Champs*
I don't expect us to be perfect. I don't expect to be undefeated every year. I know **** happens. I expect just like they used to demand out of us...play smart, fundamental football, and never quit. Play with pride, and do your best. This team looks like it gave up, and we've seen that happen too many times lately. It's baffling to me. They've told me that kids are just different these days versus 15 years ago. I don't know how it's really THAT different, but it seems to be. I just remember the "No Excuses" mantra when they first came. We lived by that at the time. Now? It just seems like there's always one. Maybe they still preach that. I hope so.
I should just probably shut up and keep on cheering my beloved Sooners on.
There is a middle here boys (and Mcrib)...there needs to be changes...I think most would agree. There might be a laundry list of them, honestly I just see the top issues and that is talent, and our OC (again my opinion). No need to go ****ing full **** ( or BoomerMagic) and talk about how this once was the best program in the nation like Bob has not had it there before and it was all Bud and Barry...Bob brought this ****ing program back...sure Gibbs did pretty good, but not by most of your standards. I am on board, I agree as I posted early, Bob is too damn loyal and needs to admit he has made some back choices....