Irish, Life, Oorah - I'm depressed. Say something, anything, that will make me feel better about all this.
At least we (probably) won't ever play Johnny Football again!
Welcome to the Doomers wagon. Stoops will never have less then a 3 loss team as long he is coach at OU. Sure, 10-3 looks good at some schools. Heck it's fine at OU, but when you know that's your peak........
We're OU. Our goal isn't 10-3, it's National Championships.
What pisses me off is "we were beaten by a better team". We're OU. There shouldn't be too many "Better Teams". We should be ****ing after a loss about a bad call from the ref, or an untimely turnover. "we shoulda/coulda beat those guys" Not......oh well, we got beat by a better team, we really had no chance.
Aug. 31: vs. UL-Monroe
Sept. 7: vs. West Virginia
Sept: 14: vs. Tulsa
Sept. 21: Open
Sept. 28: at Notre Dame
Oct. 5: vs. TCU
Oct. 12: vs. Texas (Dallas)
Oct. 19: at Kansas
Oct. 26: vs. Texas Tech
Nov. 2: Open
Nov. 9: at Baylor
Nov. 16: vs. Iowa State
Nov. 23: at Kansas State
Nov. 30: Open
Dec. 7: at Oklahoma State
AD plays tonight! (That's all I've got)
next year will be shaky but should pay dividends for 2014
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Eh...it was just the cotton bowl. I was quite amused watching atm celebrate like they had just won a mnc.
Fvckin it live via tapatalk dos
Love my school, sign up or shut up
you don't see me calling out your prediction, if you think they will fine but I don't see it
we are replacing so much and the teams I have us losing to aren't losing nearly as much (TCU, ND, Baylor, OSU)
we don't even know our offensive identity going into next year, we are replacing our entire DL, still trying to find a LB core, and will be fielding a mostly new secondary
be optimistic all you want, I'm giving you reasons why we won't win 10 games next year
We aren't changing anything next year. The only thing you will see different next year is the coaches salary (balls if you are interested in that sort of thing ).
I walked out of Jerry's World at the beginning of the fourth. I hated doing that, but I told myself I have much more respect for Oklahoma Football than to sit and watch this any longer.
There is a reason, and we painfully found that out throughout the course of the season, that our starting D-line, sans Ndule, didn't start until their 5th year. I do think that our defensive woes are mainly b/c of personnel and not scheme. As its been said, Mike's got his work cut out for him but it's probably going to be at least two years til we see significant improvement, and that's provided there are staff changes.
Which brings me to my next point. No one can deny that there is need for Stoops to clean house. Schmitty, Patton and Shipp need to be outright fired. BJW needs to retire. Heupel needs to go fine tune his skills elsewhere. We know Bob won't fire Kittle, but he needs to be re-assigned to a non-coaching position.
The thing is, and this is what frustrates me, does Stoops realize these changes must be made? If so, does he have the will to do it? I'm far, far, far away from the Fire Stoops crowd, but if won't do these things, he needs to step down. Stoops brought us back from mediocrity, the worst thing he could do is return us there.
Welcome to reality. All that's left is for you to realize that it's apathy on Stoops's part that is the root cause of all of this. If Stoops tried as hard as Saban to do everything he could within the rules to win, he'd be as good as Saban. The biggest mistake of his career was 2000 / 2005 - Showing us what he could do if he put his mind to it.... and tried / worked HARD. He knows very well what it would take for 2000 to happen again, but he WILL NOT do that. Everyone knows these changes need to be made..... how is it possible that Stoops is the only one who doesn't?.... and if one thinks he'll ever try that (2000) hard again, one's lost their ****ing mind. lazy and apathetic. $4.7 mil per year.
Best possible outcome - Stoops stays, but as a figurehead - just like JoePa. We pay Mike more (even if it's under the table) to stay for good, as he's one of the best defensive coordinators in the NCAA and hasn't caught the apathy bug. We get Wilson back from IU and pay him more, as he's the best obvious choice (Mangino couldn't work out for PC reasons) and was the OC of the greatest offense in college football history (2008 OU). Bob as apathetic figurehead, Mike with total control of the D, and Wilson with total control of the offense. Neither would report to Bob. Both just report straight to Joe C.
Cheering up after this game is easy. 3little words is all it takes.
No more Landry.
Think about that for a second.........
Makes me smile every time.
Most people are saying that 6 coaches need to go in some form or fashion. That's not even realistic. Name me a program that has moved that many coaches in one year.
I am willing to give Stoops the time needed to get this turned around, but the clock is ticking. I can *promise you this, if he makes zero staff changes and next year we go 7-5 or below, I will be fully supportive of Stoops stepping down.
*granted there are not multiple significant injuries
I honestly believe being clutch is a real thing.
I honestly believe Landry is the opposite of that. Whatever that is. We've all had the feeling when we start seeing Landry getting jittery on the field when things start getting real. Ball's not even snapped yet and Landry just looks like he's fixing to screwup. Then he does. You feel like a freaking psychic everytime it happens.
People who can't admit this is a very real thing Landry does and that it became so common it was predictable I can't take seriously.
I also think he was a piss poor leader on the field who was incapable of rallying his team. That something else that was obvious that some people can't seem to admit.
But no I don't think it was ALL Landry's fault. I do think the team will play better as a unit without him and I"m glad he's finally gone.
I need you to tell me why this loss wasn't such a bad thing and how we'll be a great team in 2013.
But we're we're the worst 5-6 team in the country. If your schedule includes three cream puff non conference teams and you have ISU and Baylor (horrible at that time), 5 wins is a given. We couldn't do that two out of three years. We ****ing sucked total ass. That was not mediocrity.
Regardless of the 10 wins, our defense was so bad this year that I consider this year a half step above mediocrity
Last year bothered me much more than this year ---- considering the players that were dismissed from the team, injured and quit.
Last year we were featured by ESPN pre-season and picked pre-season #1. We ended up 10 and 3 with a loss at home to a sorry Tech team and a total melt down to Sheep Hoser U. How embarrassing.
At least this year we lost to formidable opponents. Stoops cleaned house in the off season and totally replaced OU's receiver corp, except for Stills. Considering Landry's penchant for going into a slump and the fact that he had all new receivers, I'm pretty happy with this season. Plus we lost two starting OL in August and replaced our leading rusher with a JUCO transfer. I'm giddy.
Things that Stoops must do: Our offense has become Texas Tech. We must find a way to score in the red zone and the 'Bell Dozer' is not the answer.
Things that Stoops won't ever do: Stoops is not a great recruiter. Get used to it. A Zebra can't change his stripes. Stoops has never been a great recruiter and he's not going to suddenly become one.
I'm not sure where you guys are getting the 'Stoops is complacent' and the list of coaches who should be replaced. Did you discern this from watching practice or are you extrapolating from the product on the field? I don't know how much Stoops 'cares' about winning but I'm guessing he still cares very much. Its his job, he's paid millions for it and he doesn't seem like the type of guy who would take that kind of money and not try his hardest???
Fantastic quote.Stoops brought us back from mediocrity, the worst thing he could do is return us there.
You know what would be a perfect job for Heupel? Quarterback coach at LSU. That has been there biggest weakness during Les Miles tenure. If he were to go there and improve that, he'll no doubt get offers to be a HC at smaller Sun Belt or MAC or MWC school or move on to an OC position elsewhere.
Josh Heupel, the quarterback who won this team a national championship will always have a place in the hearts of all Sooner fans. Josh Heupel, the green and often inept and incompetent OC will not. There is no place for on the job training when you're the offensive coordinator at the University of Oklahoma.
I'll give Josh another year before becoming critical of him. I want to see what he can so with mobility at qb.