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ha! what a piece of ****. **** couldn't win **** without help. I think they should come out with a new sport called "The Steroid Games" and let all these ****s be a part of it
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ha! what a piece of ****. **** couldn't win **** without help. I think they should come out with a new sport called "The Steroid Games" and let all these ****s be a part of it
Or he may not.
If he admits to it I'll hate him even more. He may think it will take a load off his chest but he's not the one that came out and admitted it. It's already been out for months (years really) that he's always been a cheater. He should just disappear and stop trying to get attention.
OSUSUCKS****, you seem like a ****.
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thanks that's what I'm going forOriginally Posted by XxSuBLiMexX
Everyone was doping at the time and he still has never had a positive test. Yeah it sucks but he still achieved a lot more than most people.
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And if he does....so what? He's already yesterday's fish wrap. Maybe he can be on TO's diving show.
And of course you mean that in a Christian sort of way.
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This x1000. So am I disappointed that it happened? Yes. Do I look down on him for doing something everyone (this is not an exaggeration) else was doing? No. It was an equal playing field.
i'm by no means a lance supporter, but this statement is laughable.
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I used steroids in college to obtain a muscular physique to attract chicks. I feel like a dirty cheater and am retracting all that **** I got through unethical practices. I am truly ashamed.
Never understood shrinking the stick to try to get chicks.
You have to use massive amounts to screw your junk up. The average college kid is doing a couple of light cycles a year to add bulk and cut fat, they're not doing like the inflated bodybuilder.
**** Lance Armstrong. He really is a cancer in Austin. He's the cycling mack brown.
Well the soccer stadium here is named Livestrong and the charity does have a foothold here in the community. I don't want that to be hurt. He lost me when after his wife stood by his no ball **** during his cancer he dumped her for Hollywood stars.
Well, if he said he's thinking about "admitting" it, hasn't he already admitted it? I'm really sick and tired of hearing about it. I do think it's a little weird how people are so maniacal about going after his ****. If I was Lance, I'd go to my condo in Marfa and hang out for a couple of years and drop out. Go Randy Quaid. I don't think he has any real money woes.
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Isn't he having to give a bunch of money back? Would admitting this have any bearing on that? If he was going to come clean he should have done it maybe before everyone else took everything away from him. Sort of like Pete Rose groveling years later. No one gives a **** after you lied and bashed your accusers for years. Once you're caught and you still deny it everyone loves pissing on you.
I'm not really sure about his finances, but he's got to have enough to at least be solvent. Maybe not. He was pretty aggressive at going after his accusers, and I'm sure a lot of people that got busted resented the **** out of him.
He has an estimated net worth of $125 million, most of which has come from being the face of major brands including Nike and Anheuser-Busch.
He used PEDs but he didn't have an unfair advantage. Everyone in cycling was using. I think he's a **** for not coming forward earlier and for being so adamant in his denials, but it has been a dirty sport and for the governing bodies to try to make him the fall guy, is equally as ****ty.
Not really sure if he's the fall guy per say. Haven't they stripped the last six or so winners? He's the biggest name and face - sort of like Bonds.
Stripping the winners is what is bull****. They are the ones who ****ed up, the governing bodies. For them to act all shocked and disgusted years later is what I'm talking about. They KNEW this **** was going on...then. Everyone in cycling knew it, that is why Lance started doping. It was essentially tacitly approved. You could not be competitive in cycling for years, unless you were doping. There is no way the governing bodies didn't know it was going on. It is only later, when they want to blame someone to take all of the heat, that they decided to pretend they are pure as the driven snow and these awful "cheaters" were doing such nefarious things as doping.
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What kind of person is attracted to participate in an industry in which success can only be attained by fraudulent behavior?
By your criteria, only a dishonest one.
Your criteria doesn't really fit what happened, however. In both baseball and in cycling, and in other sports, as well, you are talking about people who have spent most of their lives pursuing goals in a specific endeavor. They find out, after they have attained a certain degree of success, that to advance, they have to play by an implied and tacit set of rules. I'm sure some people walked away. Others didn't. Regardless, it is bull**** to blame only the participants when the people who were charged with maintaining the playing field created an atmosphere, either through laziness or greed, that allowed the corruption of the sport.
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I completely agree. Well said. "We're all part of the same hypocrisy, Senator."
Of course they did. Just like baseball did with steroids and football with bounties. What are they going to do - ban everyone and make it so tough that you and I would have a chance? They are a bunch of ****ing sheep. LA is the only rider in the world that gets faster going up the Alps and it's no big deal. Our world as we know it is a joke when it comes to double standards.
Who the **** cares....He beat cancer and still did more athletic training than we have....won an event that Americans should not.
The reason the governing bodies went after Armstrorng is because he pissed them off. For some reason Armstrong does that to just about everybody he develops a relationship with. I've always thought it was the longhorn in him.
In reality though, it appears that Armstrong deeply hurt a lot of former friends and colleagues to the point that they started ratting him out. It took a while and I believe that is why the federations were so late in going after Armstrong. However, by then he was snubbing his nose at all those old french and italian ****s and we all know who wins in those deals.
In his early years as a rising triathlete/cyclist, Armstrong was known as an uber talented snot nosed little prick. He wasn't very well liked in the American cycling community. After the cancer deal he seemed like a changed man. But what's the old saying........you can't change the spots on a leapard?
It's stupid as **** to think just because other people are cheating I should cheat too. That's why sports are being tainted everyone wonders who is cheating and who isn't. They should be role models for kids that want to grow up and do what they do. The image they have left for kids especially Lance is that if you want to win in a sport you better cheat and get your teammates to cheat also.
For me I don't accept the "everyone is doing it" excuse from people but I am not going to spew hate for LA when in fact everyone was doing it.
If he hadn't cheated then we wouldn't be having this conversation. Not for the reasons you think, but rather the fact that nobody would know who the **** Lance Armstrong was.
Quick, name another American cyclist who is currently racing. I bet you can't without looking it up. Well, whoever you look up is who Lance Armstrong would have been had he not cheated.
If it's your livelihood and have the ego to want to be the best you might think differently.
I know I'm old but there used to be a time where cheating to be the best doesn't make you the best.
We now live in a culture where only the best are "idolized", coming in second has you forgotten faster than Kim Kardashian can lose her clothes... and you're ancient, but that's a whole other topic.
That "time" has never existed. When athletes could cheat, they would cheat.
Here is an article from 1960 that was published in SI that addresses drug cheats in that era.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...2027/index.htm
only pussies cheat the great ones do it with hard work
It would be nice if that were true. It's just not true in a lot of sports where PEDs make a huge difference in performance. Unfortunately cycling is one of those sports.
delusional and unrealistic. no one is excusing the use of PEDs, but rather looking at the situations realistically. Lance was/is a ****. that's what led to his downfall. And i agree with others; the governing bodies here were as corrupt as anyone using PEDs.
and PEDs have always existed in every sport. They just evolve over time. and cycling gets the worst rap b/c they're tested more than anyone else*.
*i have no idea if this is a true statement.
I'm not talking about only in **** cycling I'm talking all sports. If you think every single great player cheats then you're a ****ing idiot.
you say it with such certainty, i'm almost impressed.
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