Stoops' real problem is fan apathy...

[OU48A]

Well,
Ok is an oil bust away from being just POOR.

An OU football still had mostly sell outs during the worst of the last oil bust.

[Hermit]

Kevin Durant won’t always be on the Thunder team….that’s the time I am talking about.
But still, Durant or not, an oil bust sends the attendance spiraling downward.

How long has Tim Duncan been with the Spurs ?

And Bennett and Presti are building a level of success that can be sustained. They are not idiots, far from it.

And there's not gonna be an oil bust. There's really not a boom right now, when compared to the 1970's . And if you talking bust in nat gas, well that's happened. There's nothing that is gonna drive the price of oil much lower than it is today.

And if this " oil bust " happens, that you think will come, its gonna hit OU right in the mouth also.

[Hermit]

Umm, when we won the Big 12 this year.

Who you kidding ?

Conference championships mean nothing to the arrogant OU fan base ........... hahahaha

Yeah , great celebration.

[Hermit]

The NBA franchises that win have always won. There's very little parity in that league. The Spurs have been good for a very long time. The Clippers haven't. The Bulls without Michael Jordan have been generally awful. The Nets are always terrible.

The Thunder are run well and have young stars. They will be relevant for a very long time. If you think that OU football has a monopoly and that the Thunder are a flash in the pan, you're wrong.

OU needs to admit that the level of play the past 4 year is unacceptable. The fans should demand more, too.

As I said above, the NBA franchises that are well managed, do well.

The kids on my street play hoops. They are out every day, year round, shootin hoops in the driveway with their Thunder gear on. The basketball courts at the park where I walk, are busy year round except in the heat of the day in the summertime. I don't see a whole lot of kids playin football.

When these kids get older, that's the future Thunder fan base, and that's when the culture here will change greatly.

And who wants to watch this brand of CFB we are seeing, that more closely resembles arena football than the football I know. These 55 to 49 games suck , in a big way. Who wants to watch that **** where defense is irrelevant. It sucks. Games last over four hours and whoever has the ball last, is the winner. Screw that ****.

[Hermit]

Kevin Durant won’t always be on the Thunder team….that’s the time I am talking about.
But still, Durant or not, an oil bust sends the attendance spiraling downward.

The Oklahoma City Blazers, a low level minor league hockey team, drew an average of 10,000 fans per game.

And you really think the Thunder are " gonna spiral down " ?

You don't understand OKC. There's a whole lot of people here, who want something different than OU vrs OSU. And from the people I meet at Thunder games, that extends across the state. The seats next to mine, are scalper owned. Different people there every game, and most of the time they are from rural Oklahoma. They've been from Boise City to Grove to Lawton.

There's a whole group of sports fans in this state, who have been waiting for something other than college sports.

[Jbaker]

I don't buy this. I lived in San Fran for several years and they have 6 pro teams. It doesn't seem to affect Stanford.

Stanford was a top-15 team this year, in a metro with 7.5 million people, and only averaged 60,000 in attendance.

[KCRuf/Nek]

Who you kidding ?

Conference championships mean nothing to the arrogant OU fan base ........... hahahaha

Yeah , great celebration.

Especially conference titles we back into.

[Yuck Fu]

Stanford was a top-15 team this year, in a metro with 7.5 million people, and only averaged 60,000 in attendance.

I'd say 60K is pretty good for that market when you consider that Stanford is an elite private school sharing the market with two D1 playing state schools. Then consider the pro teams in the market. Then consider that probably better than 50% of the people in the metro are from someplace besides Cali. Consider that the people in the immeidiate area are computer nerds.

And finally a lot of the people immeidiately to the west of Stanford care about saving whales and spotted owls and interior decorating shows more than they care sports.....Not that there is anyting wrong with that.

[madbrad]

I'd say 60K is pretty good for that market when you consider that Stanford is an elite private school sharing the market with two D1 playing state schools. Then consider the pro teams in the market. Then consider that probably better than 50% of the people in the metro are from someplace besides Cali. Consider that the people in the immeidiate area are computer nerds.

And finally a lot of the people immeidiately to the west of Stanford care about saving whales and spotted owls and interior decorating shows more than they care sports.....Not that there is anyting wrong with that.

Lol

Couldn't agree more.