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    Butthurt Tea Party gunna take ur jerbs

    BOSTON —

    The Republican Party seems as divided and angry as ever.

    Infighting has penetrated the highest levels of the House GOP leadership. Long-standing geographic tensions have increased, pitting endangered Northeastern Republicans against their colleagues from other parts of the country. Enraged tea party leaders are threatening to knock off dozens of Republicans who supported a measure that raised taxes on the nation's highest earners.

    "People are mad as hell. I'm right there with them," Amy Kremer, chairman of the Tea Party Express, said late last week, declaring that she has "no confidence" in the party her members typically support. Her remarks came after GOP lawmakers agreed to higher taxes but no broad spending cuts as part of a deal to avert the "fiscal cliff."

    "Anybody that voted `yes' in the House should be concerned" about primary challenges in 2014, she said.

    At the same time, one of the GOP's most popular voices, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, blasted his party's "toxic internal politics" after House Republicans initially declined to approve disaster relief for victims of Superstorm Sandy. He said it was "disgusting to watch" their actions and he faulted the GOP's most powerful elected official, House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio.

    The GOP's internal struggles to figure out what it wants to be were painfully exposed after Mitt Romney's loss to President Barack Obama on Nov. 6, but they have exploded in recent days. The fallout could extend well beyond the party's ability to win policy battles on Capitol Hill. It could hamper Republicans as they examine how to regroup and attract new voters after a disheartening election season.

    To a greater degree than the Democrats, the Republican Party has struggled with internal divisions for the past few years. But these latest clashes have seemed especially public and vicious.

    "It's disappointing to see infighting in the party," said Ryan Williams, a Republican operative and former Romney aide. "It doesn't make us look like we're in a position to challenge the president and hold him accountable to the promises he made."

    What's largely causing the dissension? A lack of a clear GOP leader with a single vision for the party.

    Republicans haven't had a consistent standard-bearer since President George W. Bush left office in 2008 with the nation on the edge of a financial collapse. His departure, along with widespread economic concerns, gave rise to a tea party movement that infused the GOP's conservative base with energy. The tea party is credited with broad Republican gains in the 2010 congressional elections, but it's also blamed for the rising tension between the pragmatic and ideological wings of the party - discord that festers still.

    It was much the same for Democrats in the late 1980s before Bill Clinton emerged to win the White House and shift his party to the political center.

    2012 presidential nominee Romney never fully captured the hearts of his party's most passionate voters. But his tenure atop the party was short-lived; since Election Day, he's disappeared from the political world.

    Those Republican leaders who remain engaged - Christie, Boehner, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell of Kentucky and Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus - are showing little sign of coming together.

    Those on the GOP's deep bench of potential 2016 presidential contenders, including Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, Wisconsin Rep. Paul Ryan, and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal, have begun staking out their own, sometimes conflicting ideas for the party.

    Over the short term at least, the party's divisions probably will continue to be exposed.

    Obama has outlined a second-term agenda focused on immigration and gun control; those are issues that would test Republican solidarity even in good times. Deep splits already exist between Republican pragmatists and the conservative base, who oppose any restrictions on guns or allowances for illegal immigrants.

    It's unclear whether Obama can exploit the GOP fissures or whether the Republican dysfunction will hamper him. With Boehner unable to control his fractured caucus, the White House is left wondering how to deal with the House on any divisive issue.

    Fiscal issues aren't going away, with lawmakers were agree on a broad deficit-reduction package. The federal government reached its borrowing limit last week, so Congress has about two months or three months to raise the debt ceiling or risk a default on federal debt. Massive defense and domestic spending cuts are set to take effect in late February. By late March, the current spending plan will end, raising the possibility of a government shutdown.

    Frustrated conservative activists and GOP insiders hope that the continued focus on fiscal matters will help unite the factions as the party pushes for deep spending cuts. That fight also may highlight Democratic divisions because the party's liberal wing vehemently opposes any changes to Social Security or Medicare

    "Whenever you lose the White House, the party's going to have ups and downs," said Republican strategist Ron Kaufman. "My guess is when the spending issues come up again, the Democrats' warts will start to show as well."

    The GOP's fissures go beyond positions on issues. They also are geographical.

    Once a strong voice in the party, moderate Republicans across the Northeast are nearly extinct. Many of those who remain were frustrated in recent days when Boehner temporarily blocked a vote on a disaster relief bill.

    Rep. Peter King, R-N.Y., said campaign donors in the Northeast who give the GOP after the slight "should have their head examined."

    Boehner, who just won a second term as speaker, quickly scheduled a vote on a narrower measure for Friday after the new Congress convened, and it rushed out a $9.7 billion measure to help pay flood insurance claims.

    Weary Republican strategists are trying to be hopeful about the GOP's path ahead, and liken the current situation to party's struggles after Obama's 2008 election. At the time, some pundits questioned the viability of the Republican Party. But it came roaring back two years later, thanks largely to the tea party.

    "If we have learned anything from the fiscal cliff fiasco, conservatives discovered we need to stand firm, and stand together, on our principles from beginning to end," said Republican strategist Alice Stewart. "It's frustrating to see the GOP drop the ball and turn a position of true compromise into total surrender. The Democrats succeeded in their strategy of divide and conquer."

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    Those milktoast rinos need to understand if they're going to to grab their ankles then it's time to go.

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    Am I the only Pub (even libertarian leaning) that wanted the temp tax breaks to end? We were robbing FICA and the W income tax cuts were intended to be short term to stimulate the economy.

    Now we just added $4.6 trillion to the deficit over ten years http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43835.

    Now we are even in worse fiscal shape.

    Oh well.....starve the beast I guess.

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    Well I wanted them to stand up and say no to the right things. From the day after the election the GOP, led by their pansy ass speaker, have been groveling and wetting their pants. I'd have been happy if they stood up and told this dumb ass no. At this point it's just about Christmas every day for him.

    I'm not so concerned about the tax cuts expiring but enough of this millionaire/billionaire 2% horseshit.

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    I am probably the only pub that didn't want any tax breaks to end or to have any cuts in spending if it harms the economy...we are on the brink of another world wide recession and these latest measures could cause the tipping point...I know you have seen the CBO data showing the decline in GDP growth caused by the measures...

    If you think we are screwed now then you will really be in the dumps if we have another recession in the next year...

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    **** the tea party.
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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Well I wanted them to stand up and say no to the right things. From the day after the election the GOP, led by their pansy ass speaker, have been groveling and wetting their pants. I'd have been happy if they stood up and told this dumb ass no. At this point it's just about Christmas every day for him.

    I'm not so concerned about the tax cuts expiring but enough of this millionaire/billionaire 2% horseshit.
    So you're not upset with the results, just with the fact that Obama got what he wanted and the high-earner rhetoric?

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    Originally Posted by Yatahaze View Post
    So you're not upset with the results, just with the fact that Obama got what he wanted and the high-earner rhetoric?
    Well I'm just so tired of that bullshit while he skullfucks his beloved middle class. I'm pissed about it all but I can't stand people that don't stand up for what they need to. If you're going to lose at least go down swinging.

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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Well I'm just so tired of that bullshit while he skullfucks his beloved middle class. I'm pissed about it all but I can't stand people that don't stand up for what they need to. If you're going to lose at least go down swinging.
    I think they knew they were going to lose so they saved the egg from their faces. JMO.

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    Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    That article is all well and good, but in the end, the repubs in congress were just self serving and trying to preserve the house control.

    Option A: All say no. Obama and the Obamedia blame the repubs for the "fiscal cliff" non stop until next election and lose the house. Results: Obama can pass whatever he wants and give us another cluster**** like Obamacare.

    Option B: All say yes. Lose all support and lose the house. Results: See option A

    Option C: OK the deal to deflect the all out blame, but strategically pick the right members needed to vote yes or no so as to hope to preserve the house. Result: May get Tea Party contenders in your district, but the repubs will probably keep the house.

    The repubs lost the battle(fiscal cliff). They are losing the war(POTUS, Senate), but they may have won a bigger battle than the cliff(house).
    Yep I think they had to concede the battle if they want any chance at winning the long term war. It's no different than what the Dem's did during the Bush years as they wandered through the wilderness with lots of infighting over the direction of the party while the GOP and others predicted the demise of the party and a GOP strangle hold on power. If the GOP finds someone to come together around come 2016 they will have a good chance of taking back the White House and putting their own agenda back in play.
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    Originally Posted by Yatahaze View Post
    I think they knew they were going to lose so they saved the egg from their faces. JMO.
    Problem is BHO and his minions will continue to trash the GOP and say whatever they need to keep it going. They make me sick.

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