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"this is Okahoma football we don't share championships"
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Except that we do...Originally Posted by Meni
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And look ****ty doing it.
that music is terrible
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WTF?? I thought we were talking about JB's Podcast!! stay focused!! damn it!
Like a national title winning quaterback as the offensive coordinator? That might be cool . . .
having spent the last 30 years in education as a teacher I can say this, President Obama has nothing to do with the failure of our students! This downward sprial began 20 years ago and has not let up! Kids get the idea that someone needs to take care of me from their parents not the government!
The lack of motivation of some OU players comes from the idea of I'm special I dont have to or want to work hard, its not longer work to make OU a great program it has become work till I turn pro and get the millions of dollars I'm due! Oh and by the way Yes I did vote for President Obama and proud of it!
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Not that I disagree with the "kids these days" argument that they feel entitled to a lot of things, but we had a pretty good team in 2008 when we went to the NC game, We also had some other good teams in the early-mid 2000's. Pretty sure many of those players would fall under the same generation of entitled kids but that didn't stop them from being mentally and physically tough.
Personally I can't stand Twitter either and think it's one of the dumbest internet inventions ever. But it's not as though Alabama players don't have access to Twitter either.
I just think it boils down to coaching and recruiting. Everyone talks about Heupel's questionable playcalling but it seems to me that he doesn't demand the same kind of toughness from his players that Wilson demanded. That shows when our OL can't impose their will and we can't run the ball. Not all of the guys we have are a bunch of crybabies. A lot of them work their butt off, they're just not very big or flat out not that good.
I would agree that kids mostly get the idea from their parents but there is a great deal more free stuff given out by the government now than there was just a few years ago. That only reinforces the thoughts in the minds of kids that the government will take care of them.
This is probably even more true in place like Blackwell who has a large number of poor people, lots of very bad looking parts of town and a wide spread woe is me/us mentality to go along with it.
Many football players come from a place where the mindset is similar….
IMHO OU could do a better job of evaluating and or changing hearts and minds of players on this topic.
As a person who does hire people and contract folks this is so true!!! Give me person who grew up with very little to nothing anyway. And trust me... Food Stamp recipients definitely fit into that category.
Now that I have discussed the Fox News Talking points of the day back to football!!!
Then there is the other extreme that we have all seen like this.^
MESHUGGAH!!!!!!!!!!
It kinda fits Jammal burying the opponents
today's players? like Justin Beiber and don't bury opponents
maybe they should listen to MESHUGGAH
English?
what?
The name of the band is Meshuggah. They're weird metal guys. DM probably loves them.
I've noticed that the mentality of American society largely reflects on the previous generations. This generation seems like they are backlashing against their parents and have the mindset of, I'm going to give my kids what I never had. I'm going to show my kids the love my parents didn't show me.
The problem is a lot of people never grew up to understand harsh lessons, or never learned that not everything in life is supposed to be pleasant. Granted, some of the problem is a lot of people flat out had ****ty parents. But whatever the reason, people have taken the "my world revolves around my kids" idea too far.
I have a co-worker who epitomizes this. When he kid came home with a bad grade, she blamed the teacher. When her son lost playing time, it was the coaches fault. You see people giving their kids ****ed names because they want their kid to stand out and be an individual. You see people getting their kids names inked all over themselves.
I don't believe there's such a thing as loving your kids too much, as long as it's in a healthy manner. The problem is people are using their kids to try to make themselves happy as therapy for their own unhappy lives or unhappy childhoods.
Agree with the whole thing you just said. But this stood out because I too have seen this. I love my kids and will do anything for them, but my job as a father is to prepare my kids to be 1) Good Person 2) good Christian 3) Good husband/wife and a hard worker for future employers.
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I thought the criticism of our defensive strategy by Jammal, Teddy, and Dusty was spot on. They pointed out that we aren't focused on penetrating and playing on the other side of the ball, and instead are trying to play two-gap ball with our d linemen. Works when Suh is the DT, but we don't have Suh. I've been hearing the same thing from a lot of ex players. Guarantee that had an impact on Justin Manning's commitment to aTm.
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I don't get stoops and venables love affair with the read and react d line scheme.
I don't think Coach V has ever been for playing 2 gap D. Even when we had stud DTs we were all about penetration, not reading from the d line.
For that matter, until this year, I never saw a Bob Stoops team do that. It seems like that is something Mike brought with him along with the 7 DB defense and running cover black against the spread.
I was shocked how bad we playedthe pumpers probably don't like all the negative comments from former players
That was a good listen!
And the podcast is no longer available..... Why am I not surprised?
It can now be found at the same location as the Bob Stoops dance celebration video.
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I told my brother before the 2011 season that I would like to see us transition to a more physical style offense and defense and that I would be willing to suffer through two or three poor to mediocre years in order to do that. Stoops was 7-5 his first year at OU, not up to traditional OU standards by any stretch. But people loved him and were very optimistic because they could see we were headed in the right direction.
OU fans want to win, but they are not unreasonable or impatient. They understand football, and if they see things being done the right way and signs of progress, they will give a coach time. It's not the record that has fans upset right now. It's the mental and physical softness.
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^this
The thing is that we don't see a progression towards a physical style really. I mean in goal line situations we load up the line but that's a gimic not a change in style. Same can be said for much of our defensive changes. We are going away from being more physical.
Absolutely. I didn't mean to imply otherwise. We are getting softer every year. We are a finesse team. It seems like we are allowing the Big12-2 to pull us that way more and more.
Lets face it, we are the PAC10 of the early 2000's without the speed.
damn sabla ... 99% of us don't remember what the pac10 was like in early 2000's. give us something we can relate too.
Don't poo poo the thread with politics...
We beat their ****! Advantage taken. Lol
All offense and no D. Old Big XII days we were considered to be a defensive league. Like the SEC is now.
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Sorry, tried to get out of it. My bad
So much fail in this post...lots more free stuff from the government? Like what? It starts at home. I came from a not so good neighborhood where people got welfare etc. Made it out just fine.
Also, most football players are coming from less than well off places but as many are stating Alabama etc aren't having this problem. So please stop poo pooing the thread with politics.
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It's all good.
In the words of the great Boz....we are now a legitimate doormat. We are the UCLA's of the 80's in college football right now. Soft Soft Soft.
There is no good reason to not go out and hire the best college OL coach. Pay him a million/yr if we have too.
I don't see any reason to keep kittles or kish, they are not developing anyone.
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I think Heupel does a good job playcalling. Calls a lot of playaction passes. I also can't predict the plays based on formation/personel so easily like prevois OC's. (excluding Bell Dozer).
I can pick a lot of the plays that he is fixing to run because of formation, down and distance. Who is in there. But hey, I did use to play a lot of NCAA football on the PS3 so I am pretty much at a coaches level of knowledge.
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While I agree with your premise ... when did Oregon take us to the woodshed? I remember when they anally ****d common sense and the rulebook....
it's very easy to predict plays when all we run are flare passes
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i don't know how well they do in the classroom but The Alabama students seem to do pretty well on the football field. Thats strange isn't it ?
I think Bob is too stubborn to change.. He won't change because he would have to admit what he's been doing all this time is wrong..
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