Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

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    Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

    The conservative media movement exists primarily as a moneymaking venture. As Rick Perlstein explained in the Baffler, some of the largest conservative media organs are essentially massive email lists of suckers rented to snake oil salesmen. The con isn’t limited to a couple of newsletters and websites: The most prominent conservative organizations in the nation are primarily dedicated to separating conservatives from their money.

    FreedomWorks, which is funded primarily by very rich people, solicits donations from non-rich conservative people. More than 80,000 people donated money to FreedomWorks in 2012, and it seems likely that only a small minority of those people were hedge fund millionaires. And what are people who donate to this grass-roots conservative organization funded mostly by a few very rich people getting for their hard-earned money? In addition to paying Dick Armey $400,000 a year for 20 years to stay away, FreedomWorks also apparently spent more than a million dollars paying Glenn Beck and Rush Limbaugh to say nice things about FreedomWorks, in order to convince listeners to send FreedomWorks money that FreedomWorks would then give to Limbaugh and Beck. It’s a pretty simple con. Beck, meanwhile, also has a subscriber-based media operation, in which people pay his company money for access to programs where Beck expresses opinions that he was paid to hold. He also spent years telling everyone to buy gold from a company that pays him and defrauds consumers.

    As Armey admitted to Media Matters, FreedomWorks at this point essentially raises money for the sake of raising money. It exists to bilk “activists.” Armey at least has the courtesy to be embarrassed by this:

    “If Limbaugh and Beck, if we were using those resources to recruit activists and inform activists and to encourage and enthuse activists, that’s one thing,” Armey explained. “If we are using these things to raise money; one, it’s a damned expensive way to raise money; and two, it makes raising money an end on to itself not an instrumental activity to support the foundation work that our organization does.

    Armey also said the relationship with Beck expanded to include rallies that were co-sponsored by Beck and FreedomWorks, and included appearances by FreedomWorks President and CEO Matt Kibbe.

    Armey said he objected to these events, dubbed FreePACs, because they often charged admission to FreedomWorks activists.

    A review of promotional information for the events found $20 was a standard donation requested at some of the locations, while a Dallas, TX., FreePAC last summer charged prices as high as $971.

    But Armey is basically alone. No major right-wing media figures ever speak out against the widespread practice of constantly bilking credulous old people. Newsmax, a company whose email list is regularly given over to blatant get-rich-quick scheme hucksters, publishes basically every major and minor conservative columnist (and Lanny Davis). Newsmax pays to syndicate their columns, and their stature lends the site credibility. None of them ever complain. No one on the right criticizes the Newsmax business model. It seems to be semi-common knowledge that major conservative media figures sell their endorsements. No one says it’s deceptive. No one says Dick Morris should stop marketing his various ventures on Fox, all the time.

    This complete contempt for the audience is unique to the right-wing press — if the Huffington Post made its money selling snake oil, liberals would complain. The recent trickle of complaints about the major nonprofit money-making groups, like FreedomWorks and CrossroadsUSA, has come solely because those groups failed to win the election. If Romney, or even a couple of Senate candidates, had won, no one would mind that the two groups enriched their boards of directors on the backs of tens of thousands of small donors. Right-wing reaction to Armey’s admission to Media Matters has thus far been outrage … that Armey talked to Media Matters.

    The problem this presents for the movement, beyond the threat of eventually bankrupting the people who give it power, is that the business of money-making, for consultants and media personalities and Herman Cains, is at this point getting in the way of the business of advancing conservative causes. The groups exert massive influence, and they only ever push the Republican Party to get more extreme. Apocalyptic hysteria is much more effective at getting people to open their wallets than reasonable commentary. There are a lot of people whose livelihoods depend on keeping lots of conservatives terrified and ill-informed. The groups that exist to raise funds raise more funds when they endorse the crazier candidate.

    So even if you don’t particularly care that regular conservative Americans are constantly being scammed by their media apparatus, you should still worry about the influence of the scammers. The fact that there is a lot of money to be made in acting like Michele Bachmann is part of why the House seems poised to blow up the U.S. economy. The fact that conservatives have that much contempt for their own true believers neatly explains how they govern when they actually have power.
    http://www.salon.com/2013/01/07/the_...aking_venture/

    Keep reading The Blaze and donating to snake oil salesmen you crazy diamonds.

    I found one particular article I read about this as the election wound up. It was about a group called The Campaign Against Barrack Obama that would get donations and then the owner would use less that 10% of the funds collected to buy ads online against Obama. The rest was pocketed.

    It is almost as if conservatism is about being able to fleece your neighbor for everything they got and then convince them it wasn't you who caused their problems, but liberals.

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    Paying Rush money to say nice things about their company? Yeah, it's called a paid advertisement, testimonial, etc. He does the same for ProFlowers, Lifelock, The Heritage Foundation, Apple. You you get your panties all in a bunch if you don't like the cell service hawked by Kevin Durant?

    So someone gets money and doesn't use it properly? Sure you're not talking about the Red Cross? Is that sort of like giving gazillions to say, bogus green energy companies or to union interests to satisfy and appease people that got you elected? Just curious.

    Salon.com? What happened to NPR?

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    Re: Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

    There is a difference between hocking life lock, a service, and pushing a scamster or organization dedicated to separating conservatives from their money.

    Keep donating to Values USA and the CampaignToDefeatObama though. Those poor board members need the bonuses they give themselves.

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    Rush/Beck = Jackson/Sharpton

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    Dick Army is the greatest name in the history of names.
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    Just can't help wondering what the coverage would have been like on this if Armey were black?

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    Originally Posted by The View Post
    Dick Army is the greatest name in the history of names.

    Just barely beating off Mike Hawk.

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    Re: Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

    Originally Posted by smot poker View Post
    Rush/Beck = Jackson/Sharpton
    False. At least in terms of what this thread is about.

    The new conservative movement is literally all about separating people from their money by using fear.

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    Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    False. At least in terms of what this thread is about.

    The new conservative movement is literally all about separating people from their money by using fear.
    Party of NO.
    War on Women.
    War on Minorities.

    Looks like another group uses fear as well

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    Re: Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

    Read the ****ing article. I don't see Jesse getting paid by a fraudulent gold buying company. Or Rev. Al pushing men to get tested for Low T.

    I don't see groups of liberals trying to act benevolent while taking donations and then issuing them to board members as bonuses instead of what the donor thought they would do.

    It really is a shame that the right is just out to **** each other out of cash.

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    Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    I don't see groups of liberals trying to act benevolent while taking donations and then issuing them to board members as bonuses instead of what the donor thought they would do.

    It really is a shame that the right is just out to **** each other out of cash.
    If someone could provide you an example would you defend it or ridicule all Dems the same way you have repubs?

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    Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    There is a difference between hocking life lock, a service, and pushing a scamster or organization dedicated to separating conservatives from their money.
    LifeLock is my favorite. It is essentially the equivalent of Lisa Simpson's tiger protection rock.
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    Re: Dick Armey exposes what Conservative interest groups are all about

    Also, here is a motherjones article.

    http://m.motherjones.com/politics/20...ibbe-super-pac

    What a bunch of crooks.

    And it would appear that your "grass roots" political movement is actually run and funded by a bunch of rich shitheads.

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    Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    False. At least in terms of what this thread is about.

    The new conservative movement is literally all about separating people from their money by using fear.
    Yep....your right. It is about separating my Hard Earned Money from me and Given to people others out of fear. you nailed. btw what and where the hell do the HUFF Post or all those Lib Orgs get THEIR Money.


    good grief.

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    Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    Read the ****ing article. I don't see Jesse getting paid by a fraudulent gold buying company. Or Rev. Al pushing men to get tested for Low T.

    I don't see groups of liberals trying to act benevolent while taking donations and then issuing them to board members as bonuses instead of what the donor thought they would do.

    It really is a shame that the right is just out to **** each other out of cash.
    No. People like Jackson got paid by his not for profit organizations so he could do benevolent acts like supporting his mistress as well as his **** child. Tell me, after you use Jackson and Sharpton as some sort of pillars of virtue do you immediately need a shower or are you just used to the stench by now?
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    Originally Posted by ThievingMagpie View Post
    Just can't help wondering what the coverage would have been like on this if Armey were black?
    Black Dick Armey? Probably bigger.

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