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    lance armstrong

    What a fraud.

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    lance armstrong

    Agree. I was one of his biggest defenders. That being said, he was the best of all the people on PEDs so... 'merica!


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    Originally Posted by htownSOONER View Post
    What a fraud.

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    It's par for the course in the sport.
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    lance armstrong

    Armstrong's a dick and deserves what is coming to him.

    That being said, can somebody please point out those in cycling that AREN'T doping?

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    ****ing nutless, PED-eating, Whorn-rooting, piece of shit.
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    Originally Posted by mgsooner View Post
    Armstrong's a dick and deserves what is coming to him.

    That being said, can somebody please point out those in cycling that AREN'T doping?
    So why is he a dick?
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    lance armstrong

    He shouldn't have come after the people that were outing him in the way he did. I don't care that he was doping. He was playing by the rules everyone else was playing by--even if they weren't on the books.

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    They took all of his titles and said he does not belong in this sport. But the titles are being vacated because 20 of the top 21 finishers have all been found guilty of useing PEDs.

    I really don't care that he was using PEDs. He is still the best cyclist in the world.

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    Where he went wrong was the same place Roger Clemens went wrong, by so vigorously denying he ever took anything. Of course Clemens was "acquitted." I don't have a huge problem with LA taking stuff. Dude had cancer and had one of his balls removed AND everyone else seemed to be also taking them. I do have a problem with him being high and mighty in his defense and lying about it. If anyone ever had a built-in excuse for using and then being forgiven it would be him.

    Edit: Just reread what I wrote and it seemed like I was sort of being trite in comparing his cancer to a "built-in excuse." Cancer is a ****. My apologies if it seemed like I was downplaying it.
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    Originally Posted by oucub23 View Post
    He shouldn't have come after the people that were outing him in the way he did.
    Reason number 1 of many why he is a dick. He's spent years bullying people and threatening legal action when all they were doing was telling the truth about him. Great guy.
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    Every cyclist thats competing in any of the UCI tours is cheating. Bradley Wiggins, a former, mildly successful, one-day specialist dominated the tour de france this year. How? Doping of some form. It's existed in cycling since the 70's if not longer, and will continue to exist. Doping stays ahead of testing.

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    Originally Posted by ArbySooner View Post
    So why is he a dick?
    I read this article back in the summer and saw a different side of him that isn't talked about much
    http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor...Armstrong.html

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    Originally Posted by Julz View Post
    I read this article back in the summer and saw a different side of him that isn't talked about much
    http://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor...Armstrong.html
    Great article. Never heard of anything like this before.

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    Originally Posted by Nazgul View Post


    ****ing nutless, PED-eating, Whorn-rooting, piece of shit.
    And then there's Lance Armstrong.
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    Originally Posted by ArbySooner View Post
    So why is he a dick?
    I always thought so because his wife stood by him during cancer and then he tossed her aside for Hollywood and famous women.

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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    I always thought so because his wife stood by him during cancer and then he tossed her aside for Hollywood and famous women.
    Not quite the way it all went down. She was out having her fun too.

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    Originally Posted by Drake View Post
    Not quite the way it all went down. She was out having her fun too.
    I stand corrected.

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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    I stand corrected.
    But I would do if I was married to that asshat. He is supposed to be a class A jerk
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    He is a jerk, but I hope they lift his lifetime ban, I really want to see him in Ironman. I don't give a shit about him doing PEDS in the early 00s, who wasn't? Seems harsh to issue a lifetime ban though, considering they let known dopers still race in the TDF.

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    So, the outcome of the movie Dodgeball would've been different had Peter LaFleur known the truth?
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    lance armstrong

    Everyone dopes in cycling. And it's cycling, so I'd rather talk about steroids in baseball or the NHL lockout.

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    I've actually met the guy a few times and he's been pretty kick back. I don't care if he was better at doping than everybody else...he ****ed over the french and I'm always for an American ****ing over the french.
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    I don't care about the drugs.
    I don't like the way all the roiders get so sassy in their denials.

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    Everyone knows that when you get involved/caught in a scandal like this, all you have to do is go on with Oprah and come clean. All will be forgiven and you'll be a hero again.

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    Originally Posted by oucub23 View Post
    He shouldn't have come after the people that were outing him in the way he did. I don't care that he was doping. He was playing by the rules everyone else was playing by--even if they weren't on the books.
    The American way. ::eyeroll
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    I would watch the interview if he would talk about nailing Cheryl Crow and Sandra Bullock.

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    Originally Posted by Nazgul View Post


    ****ing nutless, PED-eating, Whorn-rooting, piece of shit.
    OK, now I hate him. ****ing **** sucker
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    What is the likelyhood that his testicular cancer was caused by whatever he was taking?

    If everyone was/is doping then it's not really fair to punish one dude just because he was better while doping than everyone else. However, I feel that in baseball the homerun crowns ougt to go back to Roger Maris and Hank Aaron. I don't believe either of those guys were doping when they set their records. But Bonds and McGwire and those guys were doping. I also don't understand how everyone got in such a hissy that Maris broke Ruth's record playing more games so they had to put an asterisk by Maris' name for many years. But we're somehow just supposed to accept Bonds records straight up.

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    Most people don't care about the doping. And it hasn't exactly been a witchhunt as people have suggested. Almost every big cyclist from that era has been busted. He was the last "great" doper standing.

    He was dick to everyone that got in his way. But be assured this "admission" has been massaged by legal types for sure. so it'll be interesting to see what comes of this from people wanting their money back..

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    I was doping after I finished dinner last night, moments before the Thunder game tipped off. Later, I doped again and played some Minecraft.

    I mean, '**** cyclists' in general but I don't see what's the big deal.

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    Hell, let em all dope. It'll just make all the sports better.

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    I guess the statute of limitations has run out on the perjury stuff. I don't give a shit about cycling or the fact that he doped. But he was a royal ass to everyone about it, and now that he is realizing that he can't brow beat people into doing shit for him, or the fact that he's not making any money because of it, he's going to come clean? **** him. what a puss.

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    Everyone makes mistakes. Frankly, his foundation is a lot more important than PED use, or being a dick to cover up his mistake and protect his brand.

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    What exactly did he do? Did he use PEDs or was he blood doping? My understanding of blood doping is basically that you store up some of your blood and then when you enter a competition, you transfuse it back into your body--kind of overfilling your red blood cell tank which gives you more endurance b/c you get more oxygen stored and used or whatever. It's not a PED is it? It's your own blood.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLawyer05 View Post
    Everyone makes mistakes. Frankly, his foundation is a lot more important than PED use, or being a dick to cover up his mistake and protect his brand.
    Really? So you're okay with him defrauding sponsors, insurance companies, etc.? You're a lawyer?? Wtf is wrong with you people?

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    He didn't make a "mistake". He deliberately and systematically cheated for years. And if that wasn't bad enough, he then continued to deny even in the face of overwhelming evidence and vehemently went on the attack against anyone who dared to speak the truth. And he doesn't give a shit about his Foundation or he wouldn't have ever put it in that position to begin with. He didn't give a shit about it then and he doesn't now. His partial (and that's all it's gonna be) "admission" is all so he can now turn in the suits who knew about it so that he can try and get himself a lighter ban. He's a douche of epic proportions and I'm pretty sure he and my baby daddy might be the same person.
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    I never knew what the big deal was...it's dude's riding on bikes. Who gives a shit what they do?

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    Originally Posted by Tug Medick View Post
    Really? So you're okay with him defrauding sponsors, insurance companies, etc.? You're a lawyer?? Wtf is wrong with you people?
    Don't act like he was the only one doing it or just a few other people. Doping in cycling is the status quo.

    On edit : his foundation has done more for cancer research than most out there.

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    I hope none of you ever do anything wrong or the wrong way. Apparently, you'd never forgive yourselves.

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    Originally Posted by ArbySooner View Post
    Don't act like he was the only one doing it or just a few other people. Doping in cycling is the status quo.

    On edit : his foundation has done more for cancer research than most out there.
    Oh, okay. So since other people engage in fraudulent behavior, that makes it acceptable. And since he donates some of his millions that were gained fraudulently to cancer charities, that's okay too. Rob Peter to pay Paul. Great way to behave.

    How much money did Bernie Madoff donate to charities? You give him a pass as well? He wasn't the only fraud in his industry, either.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLawyer05 View Post
    I hope none of you ever do anything wrong or the wrong way. Apparently, you'd never forgive yourselves.
    Mistakes and fraud are two different things. You should know and appreciate the difference.
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    Fully aware of the difference. He's already been banned for life from the sport. You guys are acting like he's a mass murderer or baby killer.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLawyer05 View Post
    Fully aware of the difference. He's already been banned for life from the sport. You guys are acting like he's a mass murderer or baby killer.
    Please point out where I characterized him as such.

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    Originally Posted by Tug Medick View Post
    Oh, okay. So since other people engage in fraudulent behavior, that makes it acceptable. And since he donates some of his millions that were gained fraudulently to cancer charities, that's okay too. Rob Peter to pay Paul. Great way to behave.

    How much money did Bernie Madoff donate to charities? You give him a pass as well? He wasn't the only fraud in his industry, either.
    Comparing Armstrong to Madoff..lol. Madoff ruined a lot of people's lives, how many did Armstrong ruin?

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    If he's gonna cheat like everyone else, that's fine but don't jump on your douche-y high horse while you're doing it. Which is my problem with him.

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    I was exaggerating on purpose. My point is that a lot of people who aren't impacted by him one way or the other seem to be awfully excited about their dislike for Lance Armstrong. I have a hard time feeling that strongly about anyone one way or the other because we're all imperfect and flawed. I don't think I know anyone who hasn't done something they aren't proud of.

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    Yeah he's guilty of being an ass, so let it go..

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    Originally Posted by ArbySooner View Post
    Comparing Armstrong to Madoff..lol. Madoff ruined a lot of people's lives, how many did Armstrong ruin?
    He entered into contracts fraudulently as a means to enrich himself. And I agree that the results of Madoff's fraud were much more devastating. But they were both frauds and both benefitted financially at another party's expense.

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    Originally Posted by ArbySooner View Post
    Yeah he's guilty of being an ass, so let it go..
    It's more than that, but whatever.

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