Any doubts that she wasn't a she ended right here.Originally Posted by McRib
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Any doubts that she wasn't a she ended right here.
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I had a client replace their 2 year old 52" outdoor TV with an 80". She asked me if I'd like to keep the old one and now I am the proud owner of it.
I've customized my LED not to show anything in the dreaded soap opera effect. It's not difficult.
Alright! I would make some off color remark asking if your crew installed it for you, but I need to remember where I am.
i'm seriously thinking of replacing my 55" samsung led with a 60" or 65" plasma....
what would someone give me for a 3 year old samsung led with blown hdmi inputs?
I upgraded my theater room with a UN55es8000 Samsung LED about 6 months ago...the most amazing picture I have ever gotten from a flat panel.
And whomever was trashing the DLP selection earlier doesn't know what they are talking about...while having a much narrower viewing angle, the picture is generally top notch. My friend has a Mitsubishi diamond DLP that has a phenomenal picture.
The reason hey are less expensive/less desire able is primarily due to size. I would be curious to see what a CRT could produce these days....
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She has an audio visual tech for their entire home and property along with camera's and motion detectors. That's not my thing. They entertain quite a bit and have a sweet outdoor area that's probably nicer than most peoples interior.
i looked at the mitsubishi dlp before i bought my samsung led.......i was not impressed with the dlp.......would never consider getting one...
My only concern with a plasma is energy usage and heat. They also still CAN have issues with burn in and picture degradation.
Also, most are native 600hz which does not prevent soap opera effect unless utilizing a a reduction in resolution...same as an LED/LCD.
It is possible that it wasn't one of the upper end sets, or that the environment was less than perfect.
the environment was a bright tv store......the same environment as the led's/plasmas ......and the dlp picture was not even close imo....
Ok. What's the soap opera effect?
That was the problem. Led and plasma displays put out way more light...more than is ever really necessary in a home (this is why magnolia and media stores are dim, if not dark, environments.
You're accusing others of not knowing what they're talking about. You just need to stop talking.
Plasmas hardly suffer any burn in. And if it does get burn in from a ticker or something similar, it will be gone pretty quickly if you just switch channels. It's not permanent burn in. Plasmas don't have native 600Hz refresh either. That's a made up number because plasmas don't actually refresh. They've come up with that number through dubious math so that they can put a number on the spec sheet. It's a different technology than LCD and thus really has no true refresh rate. That's why plasma is best for cinephiles because it doesn't have the soap opera effect and will show a movie in the most true format.
As far as DLPs, size is only part of their problem. Since it's a projection the image suffers from wash out. Especially over a period of time. Sure you can turn all the settings up to make it brighter but it'll make your bulb life shorter. They just don't have images that look as good as other technologies.
http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7...what-is-600hz/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...-in-a-problem/
http://news.cnet.com/8301-17938_105-...r-lies-to-you/
It explains it in this article: http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-33199_7...-refresh-rate/
I'll explain a bit more about it later when I have time.
Well...I will say this:
A plasma can have a permanent burn in.
A plasma does "refresh" in the sense that the images given it are done so in this format. It is also only capable of changing pixels a maximum (in general) of 600 times per second.
If the device providing the image to the display is doing so without a pull down, for things originally recoded on celluloid, it will still have an interpolation problem regardless of display. Most digital media is native at 24p, but there are instances where the native rate is mastered onto digital media (primarily DVD, but some BluRays are done at 60p...it is rare.
Unless a "Cinephile" has a projector, they are NEVER going to get the "most true" in addition most LED and LCD displays are now native at 120 or 240 hz making 24 fps look as accurate as a plasma.
As to DLP the greatest difference is price. There is simply very little technology that can produce a better image for 100" and above LCoS being one. If I was set on getting something 80" viewable, a DLP is, by far, the most reasonable overall possibility.
Those are old plasma problems. The newer ones haven't had those issues for quite some time
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and the new ones are getting slimmer.....the sammys are less than 2" thick....
It is still an issue comparative to LED/LCD.
Energy ratings are based upon 10hr/day usage, so these numbers should be divided up depending upon your actuals.
60" LED Samsung series 8 UA60ES8000M uses 508 kWh/annum
60" Plasma Samsung series 8 PS60E8000GM uses 837 kWh/annum
Figuring a cost of $.10 per kWh a top of the line LED costs $50.80 per yer while the comparable plasma costs $83.70 a difference of $32.90/year.
This is based upon factory settings. A calibrated LED in this range will typically use half of the wattage at factory settings, while a calibrated plasma will generally use double the wattage needed for factory settings.
Turn down the backlighting and problem solved. Doing so also fixed my flashlight problem.
Yep. Btw, I don't know if anyone here has gained silver status at Best Buy, but if you have, they now offer one free in home service per year FREE.
Calibration does make a difference.
Here's a decent review of mine. The Samsung SAM-UN60ES6500.
http://m.digitaltrends.com/tv-review...es6500-review/
Calibration makes a huge difference and I'll add that each of us probably has our desired setting. What one person likes, another may not. You calibrate to your own personal preference.
Last edited by SiggyPoke; 01-17-2013 at 08:06 PM.
I've had one about a month and love it. Picture is better than LCD. The secret is to put it in one spot and leave it alone. I've had a 55 mitsubishi for 10 years with the factory bulb. 3D is awesome also. I bought thru Paul's off amazon and they set it up and made sure it worked before leaving. Be warned though the free shipping is slow.
Cool. Thanks. The TV will never move once it's put into place. I have the entertainment center build into the wall.
One thing to keep in mind if you are looking at the Mitsubishi, dm is that they announced this year would be the last year they make those DLP rear-projection TVs. Might want to go ahead and buy a couple of replacement bulbs for later on in case they are hard to find later. I read somewhere you can get them pretty cheap on Amazon.
I read somewhere they will continue to support it though. And yeah they are pretty cheap.
Good friend of mine has both the 73" and the 82". He had the 73 in his mancave and when he upgraded to the 82 moved the 73 to his living room for his wife. Both are great tv's. I almost bought the 92" to put in my new sunroom but they do struggle a bit with glare from direct sunlight. Especially the new 92". I am looking at Sharp LED 80" for the sunroom now. I wouldn't hesitate on the 73" for the price if you can avoid a lot of direct glare right on the tv.
Just don't invite him over to show him your box....Uh, no offense & all, but when a stranger from a rival school invites you over to "show" you a box that measures your exact height, he's planning to bury you in said box.
So, um, I'm washing my hurr that night
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Bottom line plasma technologies is cheap for a high quality product. That being said, "don't be poor".
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who the hell cares about $33 a year? and who the hell watches 10 hours of TV a day??? go outside.
full disclosure - i bought a 50 inch 1080p Samsung plasma earlier this year. our gameroom isnt very big (about 15 feet deep by 20 feet wide) so 50 was a good size IMO.
, when are you going to come over and lay out next to this?
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Might want to invest in a properly sized stand.
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I've gotta pay the new TV off first. I'm poor.
we have a DLP....kinda annoying when we have to replace the bulb and color wheel. overall from the lifetime of having to replace those we could have just bought a new TV. We have a samsung 55" i believe DLP and had to replace the bulb probably 3 times and the colorwheel twice. Expensive ****
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Damn, that's one big TV. You just bought it?
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