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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    (CNN) - “We must stop being the stupid party.” “We must stop looking backward.” “We must stop insulting the intelligence of voters.”

    Gov. Bobby Jindal held little back with his sharp words to Republicans Thursday evening, urging his own party to rethink their arguments against Democrats and appeals to voters in his remarks to party members attending the Republican National Committee’s Winter Meeting.

    “We seem to have an obsession with government bookkeeping,” he told party members. “We as Republicans have to accept that government number crunching – even conservative number crunching – is not the answer to our nation’s problems.”

    Instead of being the “party of austerity,” Jindal said, Republicans must “boldly show what the future can look like with the free-market policies that we believe in.”

    “We must compete for every single vote: the 47 percent and the 53 percent and any other combination of numbers that adds up to 100 percent,” he said, notably invoking comments 2012 Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney made at a closed door fundraiser about a bloc of voters who would not consider GOP candidates.

    He also spoke out against those and other “completely unhelpful” comments from Romney in a November interview with CNN. In that interview, he signaled one of the seven points for the Republican Party’s future which he laid out Thursday: “The first step in getting the voters to like you is to demonstrate that you like them,” he explained Thursday.

    Republicans “must reject the notion that demography is destiny, the pathetic and simplistic notion that skin pigmentation dictates voter behavior. We must treat all people as individuals rather than as members of special interest groups,” he said.

    The Louisianan’s remarks further positioned himself as a forward-looking voice among the Republicans thought to have their eye on a White House bid in 2016. RNC Chairman Reince Priebus has directed a five-member panel known as the "Growth and Opportunity Project" to identify winning political strategies for the future, particularly in the area of minority outreach.

    Jindal’s remarks were laced with criticism of and laugh lines at the expense of Democrats, such as “Which of you wants to sign up to help manage the slow decline of the United States of America? I sure don’t. That’s what we have Democrats for.”

    He blasted the economic stimulus programs of President Barack Obama’s administration, invoking Solyndra when he said: “You can’t hire enough government workers or give enough taxpayer money to your friends who own green energy companies to create prosperity.”

    But he was also distinctly blunt with his appraisal of the GOP.

    Republicans have not only lost elections, he said, but lost issue arguments with Democrats.

    “At present we have one party that wants to be in charge of the federal government so they can expand it, and one party that wants to be in charge of the federal government so they can get it under control,” he said, referring first to Democrats and then Republicans. “It’s a terrible debate, it’s a debate fought entirely on our opponents’ terms.”

    Jindal allowed that his thoughts “may challenge your ****umptions.”

    “We must shift the eye line and the ambition of our conservative movement away from managing government and toward the mission of growth,” he said.

    Republicans must move, he said, beyond a notion of “if we can just put together a spreadsheet and a power point and a TV ad, all will be well.”

    Jindal was elected last year to lead the Republican Governor’s ****ociation.

    Priebus will be up for re-election as RNC chairman on Friday.

    “I don’t think you should use that whole ORCA thing for your election tomorrow,” Jindal joked, referring to the Romney campaign voter turnout technology which was reportedly plagued with glitches on Election Day.

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    Jindal for President.
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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

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    Jindal for President.
    Father Karras as his running mate?

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    At least someone showed some balls for a change.
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    Would Okies vote for Jindal, or is he too brown?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    Would Okies vote for Jindal, or is he too brown?
    Is he more brown than Barry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    Would Okies vote for Jindal, or is he too brown?
    Our current president was probably too white to vote for.

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    Knowing hOw uninformed the average American voter is, I'm sure they will think he is Muslim terrorist.
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    Quote Originally Posted by madbrad View Post
    Knowing hOw uninformed the average American voter is, I'm sure they will think he is Muslim terrorist.
    Oh **** maybe it's just like Homeland!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stinger_1066 View Post
    Would Okies vote for Jindal, or is he too brown?
    They voted forJ C Watts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    They voted forJ C Watts.
    Jindal can't play QB.
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    Jindal said nothing of substance....he must be learning from Hussein.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Jindal can't play QB.
    Good...I don't want to hear anymore about the SEC.

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    Republicans “must reject the notion that demography is destiny..."
    Demography is Destiny was the title of one of Ann Coulter's pieces.

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    Bottom line is repubs piss away **** votes (maybe 10%) and a significant number of women votes(abortion issue). Add in that minorities won't vote repubs for one reason or another.

    Romney was sort of right. There is a significant number of people that just won't vote republican. Some because they either are on the take or government workers, but a lot of it is because of social issues and the perception about repubs.

    The saying goes that perception is reality. The dems with the msm have done a heck of a job demonizing repubs and giving people the perception that the repubs are for big corporations, rich white guys and they hate women, **** people and minorities. The repubs are going to have to rebrand themselves if they ever want to win again.

    You just can't win on a grand stage with boring facts and logic on defense, fiscal or 2nd amendment issues when that all gets erased by stupid and polarizing remarks on **** rights and abortion rights.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    Bottom line is repubs piss away **** votes (maybe 10%) and a significant number of women votes(abortion issue). Add in that minorities won't vote repubs for one reason or another.

    Romney was sort of right. There is a significant number of people that just won't vote republican. Some because they either are on the take or government workers, but a lot of it is because of social issues and the perception about repubs.

    The saying goes that perception is reality. The dems with the msm have done a heck of a job demonizing repubs and giving people the perception that the repubs are for big corporations, rich white guys and they hate women, **** people and minorities. The repubs are going to have to rebrand themselves if they ever want to win again.

    You just can't win on a grand stage with boring facts and logic on defense, fiscal or 2nd amendment issues when that all gets erased by stupid and polarizing remarks on **** rights and abortion rights.
    I don't think the abortion issue is quite as large...I know many women against abortion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pphilfran View Post
    I don't think the abortion issue is quite as large...I know many women against abortion...
    Usually it is married women. Romney, I think I saw the demographics, got similar or a higher percentage of married women and white vote than Reagan. Reagan won in a blowout. Romney lost big.

    The dems know their opponents and with the help of the msm, exploit the polarizing aspects of the repubs. They portray it as "the man" vs some subgroup. Or it is, rich white guys/corporations vs some subgroup. It is a dirty, but effective strategy. It doesn't help our country unite and come together, but it wins elections.

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    The poor Republicans. They would win every election if it werent for those big bad meanies "the mainstream media".
    Last edited by mgsooner; 01-26-2013 at 12:36 PM.
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    jajajajaja the stupid party!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsooner View Post
    The poor Republicans. They would win every election if it werent for those big bad meanies "the mainstream media".
    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****. It's the msm and dem way. It works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****. It's the msm and dem way. It works.
    jajajaja totes!

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****. It's the msm and dem way. It works.
    It certainly has nothing to do with the Republican party itself. They're perfect, it's just that big bad bully the MSM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nocalsooner View Post
    Demography is Destiny was the title of one of Ann Coulter's pieces.
    Why not? Plagiarism worked for Unkca Joe.

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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Damn. #truth. That kind of thinking could gets INDs like me to rejoin the party.

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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    Jindal said nothing of substance....he must be learning from Hussein.
    You're truly lost. You're why BHO is in the White House. Challenge yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by OUMallen View Post
    You're truly lost. You're why BHO is in the White House. Challenge yourself.
    Ahh, you found enlightenment by voting for Hussein. Don't blame me for your foolishness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsooner View Post
    The poor Republicans. They would win every election if it werent for those big bad meanies "the mainstream media".
    Honest question: Would Obama have been elected in '08 if he had been vetted in a manner similar to what Romney endured this cycle? He got a p**** from the media--in both of his elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oucub23 View Post
    Honest question: Would Obama have been elected in '08 if he had been vetted in a manner similar to what Romney endured this cycle? He got a p**** from the media--in both of his elections.
    False. CNN spent literally every day for about eight weeks covering the Jeremiah Wright story, and their coverage coverage certainly wasn't pro-Obama.

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    Jindal is right. You guys should have listened to me. Huntsman should be your future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    Jindal is right. You guys should have listened to me. Huntsman should be your future.
    Heh heh...yeah, Pubs should listen to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    Jindal is right. You guys should have listened to me. Huntsman should be your future.
    Huntsman is a Statist just like Romney and Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    Jindal is right. You guys should have listened to me. Huntsman should be your future.
    Huntsman wrote a gushing love letter to BHO when he left China. I'm surprised they weren't going steady. He's a disaster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nocalsooner View Post
    Demography is Destiny was the title of one of Ann Coulter's pieces.
    Ann Coulter is a ****ing idiot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Huntsman wrote a gushing love letter to BHO when he left China. I'm surprised they weren't going steady. He's a disaster.
    Resigning your position as United States Ambassador to China in a professional manner is not disqualification from being president. Enjoy losing in 2016.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinatra View Post
    False. CNN spent literally every day for about eight weeks covering the Jeremiah Wright story, and their coverage coverage certainly wasn't pro-Obama.
    Wright? That's not all he's got in his past. There's a lot more there that was ignored. I do not believe that if the media had gone after him in the way they did Romney that he would have even won the nomination in 08--Clinton would have. Had they gone after him in 12, he'd have lost by 10 points. The economy is a mess.

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    Huntsman is a Statist just like Romney and Obama.
    The libertarian movement needs to break away from the republican party if this is your view. Huntsman received a lot of praise from the Cato "Institute" for his tax policy and was the most conservative of the candidates.

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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Bobby is right. Unfortunately until my parents generation passes on, our party will be controlled by out of touch people that live in a fantasy world. Like Bounce and 87.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fdubzou View Post
    Bobby is right. Unfortunately until my parents generation passes on, our party will be controlled by out of touch people that live in a fantasy world. Like Bounce and 87.
    Ouch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdubzou View Post
    Bobby is right. Unfortunately until my parents generation passes on, our party will be controlled by out of touch people that live in a fantasy world. Like Bounce and 87.
    Don't forget the libertarians who call everyone fascists.
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    Huntsman is pretty much in agreement with Obama in things like healthcare, government bailing out banks and other companies, cap and trade, dream act the way the democrats want it, stimulus, war with Iran and Korea, and he was even okay with Obama signing the NDAA. Yeah he's very libertarian. You like Huntsman because he would continue Obama and Bush's work to make our government more and more fascist like where the companies and unions control who is in the white house. And screw over the middle and lower classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OnlyOneOklahoma View Post
    Resigning your position as United States Ambassador to China in a professional manner is not disqualification from being president. Enjoy losing in 2016.
    Sure don't want an **** kissing liberal like him. Of course you have a man crush on him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    Bottom line is repubs piss away **** votes (maybe 10%) and a significant number of women votes(abortion issue). Add in that minorities won't vote repubs for one reason or another.

    Romney was sort of right. There is a significant number of people that just won't vote republican. Some because they either are on the take or government workers, but a lot of it is because of social issues and the perception about repubs.

    The saying goes that perception is reality. The dems with the msm have done a heck of a job demonizing repubs and giving people the perception that the repubs are for big corporations, rich white guys and they hate women, **** people and minorities. The repubs are going to have to rebrand themselves if they ever want to win again.

    You just can't win on a grand stage with boring facts and logic on defense, fiscal or 2nd amendment issues when that all gets erased by stupid and polarizing remarks on **** rights and abortion rights.
    how are you going to get that 10% **** vote and those women who so dearly love abortion....without pissing off a very large % of your base?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdubzou View Post
    Bobby is right. Unfortunately until my parents generation passes on, our party will be controlled by out of touch people that live in a fantasy world. Like Bounce and 87.
    and then the current republican party will be = to the current democratic party (not far apart now)....
    and the dem party will be a radical freak show...
    so good luck to you in the future....
    why wait until your parents die......join the dem party now...
    Last edited by 87sooner; 01-27-2013 at 07:43 AM.

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    My guess is that both parties are in decline...we shall see...

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    Quote Originally Posted by pphilfran View Post
    My guess is that both parties are in decline...we shall see...

    politics is about winning....and holding power....it's not about governing well/responsibly once you win...
    just look at what the repubs did for 8 years in power.....THAT is the main reason they lost the last two elections.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    how are you going to get that 10% **** vote and those women who so dearly love abortion....without pissing off a very large % of your base?
    You do realize that women + ****s is > than the republican base, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by madbrad View Post
    Is he more brown than Barry?
    Don't Kenya my Indian...

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    how are you going to get that 10% **** vote and those women who so dearly love abortion....without pissing off a very large % of your base?
    Therein lies the rub. Republicans need to realize that even if they get roe v wade overturned(highly unlikely), it will go back to the states. Most states will still allow abortions, so even if you throw it back to the states, you won't stop an abortion. While ardent pro lifers think it is a fight worth fighting, I'm not sure it is a fight they can win and if they win the fight(roe v wade), they still won't win the war(less abortions/losing elections).

    I think most of the republican base is 1)religious and 2)believers in the constitution, the bill of rights and the Declaration of Independence. Being created equal and the right to pursue happiness are beliefs that should be reiterated. In addition, marriage is a religious belief. We are not a theocracy. That should be reiterated. While you don't have to accept a **** lifestyle within your church, as an American you should believe in the rights of **** individuals to pursue their happiness and get married.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    I think most of the republican base is 1)religious and 2)believers in the constitution, the bill of rights and the Declaration of Independence.
    Who doesn't believe in the principles described in those documents?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinatra View Post
    Who doesn't believe in the principles described in those documents?
    Where have Obama and Bush done anything to show they give a rats **** about those documents.
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