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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Why not? Plagiarism worked for Unkca Joe.
    It appears he used the phrase "Demographics is Destiny" to bash Ann Coulter, not to plagiarize.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sinatra View Post
    Who doesn't believe in the principles described in those documents?
    Beliefs and actions are 2 different things. And you know very well that a lot of the principles outlined in those documents get trampled on every day. For the purpose of this thread, I am pointing out the conflict between the principles of 1)equal rights, 2)the pursuit of happiness and 3)no state religion with those on the right that campaign against **** marriage.

    As you pointed out, I think most people would want to agree with and believe in those documents. Neither party does a very good job upholding those principles. The dems aren't going to change. The GOP is looking to rebrand themselves(think they met in Williamsburg to discuss it). If the GOP wants to convert some voters, they need to reframe their arguments and their presentations around the beliefs in those principles and documents that, as you imply, everyone believes in.

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    Both parties are **** themselves over by embracing that controling the federal government is what we should be doing because "our side does it better." What one party or another needs to agree to do is get rid of federal control and return it to it's natural power in the states for most everything.
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    Both parties are **** themselves over by embracing that controling the federal government is what we should be doing because "our side does it better." What one party or another needs to agree to do is get rid of federal control and return it to it's natural power in the states for most everything.
    Eliminate the parties! They are not needed
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    Quote Originally Posted by soonerintn View Post
    If you can't dazzle them with brilliance, baffle them with bull****. It's the msm and dem way. It works.
    It's funny when you guys whine about "victim mentality" and then claim you are "victims" of the mainstream media.

    Who watches the mainstream media anyway? When the news programs are on the "mainstream" viewer is trying to figure out whether to watch a rerun of 2 and a half men or Everybody Loves Raymond.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuck Fu View Post
    It's funny when you guys whine about "victim mentality" and then claim you are "victims" of the mainstream media.

    Who watches the mainstream media anyway? When the news programs are on the "mainstream" viewer is trying to figure out whether to watch a rerun of 2 and a half men or Everybody Loves Raymond.
    The low info voter that used that one minute twenty blurb on the news to inform themselves on what's going on. If you did that you'd think the WH actually cared about the election props errr Sandy victims. They never know what's going on with Senator Menendez not once but twice. I'll never forget the woman that was talking about seeing Libya on the news and and she thought some guy name "Ben Ghazi" killed four people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpankyNek View Post
    You do realize that women + ****s is > than the republican base, right?
    and?
    are you seriously suggesting the repubs could attract a portion of women/****s > than the number of repubs they would lose in doing so?
    just look how many repubs stayed home in 2012 because of the piss poor candidate they ran.....
    start talking up **** marriage/abortion and like i said.....you might as well switch parties and vote dem....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    and?
    are you seriously suggesting the repubs could attract a portion of women/****s > than the number of repubs they would lose in doing so?
    just look how many repubs stayed home in 2012 because of the piss poor candidate they ran.....
    start talking up **** marriage/abortion and like i said.....you might as well switch parties and vote dem....
    Put a candidate out there that conservatives will get behind and turnout won't be a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Put a candidate out there that conservatives will get behind and turnout won't be a problem.
    i agree....
    but will conservatives get behind a candidate that says he'll back **** marriage/abortion?

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    Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Quote Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Put a candidate out there that conservatives will get behind and turnout won't be a problem.
    Turnout was up from 08. Romney lost because he quit running--he thought he had it sewn up. Add that in with a poor gotv move on Election Day and we got 4 more years of bad GDP and high unemployment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sooner 4 Life View Post
    Eliminate the parties! They are not needed
    This a million times.

    Vote for people, not extremism and ideologies.
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    Re: Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yatahaze View Post
    This a million times.

    Vote for people, not extremism and ideologies.

    There isn't an ideoligical difference. That is the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    There isn't an ideoligical difference. That is the problem.
    There is...this is why turnout was poor last election for both guys. Neither party is putting up someone that is able to show (by record) a friend of either ideology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    There isn't an ideoligical difference. That is the problem.
    Spoken like a true third party member: "these two partied are exactly the same" when everyone in the real world sees two parties gone so far to the opposite extremes that terms like "moderate" becomes a dirty word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yatahaze View Post
    Spoken like a true third party member: "these two partied are exactly the same" when everyone in the real world sees two parties gone so far to the opposite extremes that terms like "moderate" becomes a dirty word.

    they are the same...
    what has owebama done that is "opposite extreme" of bush?

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    Re: Bobby Jindal: "We must stop being the stupid party"

    Quote Originally Posted by Yatahaze View Post
    Spoken like a true third party member: "these two partied are exactly the same" when everyone in the real world sees two parties gone so far to the opposite extremes that terms like "moderate" becomes a dirty word.
    No they don't like that the guy with the other party next to his name has power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    they are the same...
    what has owebama done that is "opposite extreme" of bush?
    Shut down 2 oceans to exploration.

    Shut down Yucca.

    Cap and trade.

    To name a few.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    and?
    are you seriously suggesting the repubs could attract a portion of women/****s > than the number of repubs they would lose in doing so?
    just look how many repubs stayed home in 2012 because of the piss poor candidate they ran.....
    start talking up **** marriage/abortion and like i said.....you might as well switch parties and vote dem....
    Yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fdubzou View Post
    Bobby is right. Unfortunately until my parents generation passes on, our party will be controlled by out of touch people that live in a fantasy world. Like Bounce and 87.
    i'm sure this is a slam on our religious tone.

    That's fine. I realize my religion is out of touch with modern society. That's what is wrong with society. That's a different thread though.

    And Jindal is a Catholic. Hopefully not like some of the "catholics" already in DC

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUMallen View Post
    Yes.
    politicians are first and foremost about winning.....they will do/say whatever it takes....
    if the repubs thought they could win by switching to pro abortion/pro **** marriage....they would do it...
    but they know....and i know....it wouldn't work.....

    you guys would be better off switching parties.....and trying to convince the dems to denounce gun control and high taxes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87sooner View Post
    politicians are first and foremost about winning.....they will do/say whatever it takes....
    if the repubs thought they could win by switching to pro abortion/pro **** marriage....they would do it...
    but they know....and i know....it wouldn't work.....

    you guys would be better off switching parties.....and trying to convince the dems to denounce gun control and high taxes....
    I'm IND. The DEMs are winning; why would they change?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUMallen View Post
    I'm IND. The DEMs are winning; why would they change?
    Cause....I say a 50/50 chance of another recession before Obama gets out of office...so they need to be thinking proactively.."How can we blame the next recession on the Repubs?"

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    I agree but probably not what he thinks...stop running Rinos like McCain and Romney...actually fight in an election and never agree with anything the Dems want to p****...run as real conservatives...they will win everytime...just about to think after they have failed so many times nationally that they are complicit in their losing to help the Dem ideology progress...time to remove the northern elites from the leadership and back to the south...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soonercoop1 View Post
    I agree but probably not what he thinks...stop running Rinos like McCain and Romney...actually fight in an election and never agree with anything the Dems want to p****...run as real conservatives..AND THEN GOVERN AS REAL CONSERVATIVES WHEN YOU WIN.....they will win everytime...just about to think after they have failed so many times nationally that they are complicit in their losing to help the Dem ideology progress...time to remove the northern elites from the leadership and back to the south...

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    Based on a Link OOO posted in another thread Mr. Jindal should reevaluate his own thinking ... especially in the educational department...

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    fify
    Good fix...

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