Was I wrong? Didn't Palin in a speech mention that as Gov of Alaska part of her foreign policy experience was she see could see Russia from Alaska. The female Forest Gump.
They also oversee the counting of the votes of the electoral college (is there actually executive sway here? I certainly don't remember a time where actuals were inconsistent with voted delivered by a VP)
Senators have far more executive duties than VPs (authoring legislation, sponsoring legislation, executing votes on legislation)
And actually you can see Russia from Alaska. The nearest point is only 2 miles apart across the Bering.
According to Fox News Chief Political Correspondent Carl Cameron:
Specific enough? Or should she be speaking in tongues to be disqualified as a Vice Presidential candidate?there was great concern within the McCain campaign that Palin lacked a degree of knowledgeability necessary to be a running mate, a vice president, a heartbeat away from the presidency," in part because she didn't know which countries were in NAFTA, and she "didn't understand that Africa was a continent, rather than a series, a country just in itself.
So to sum up, Oklahoma and Rhode Island are bigger players on the National scene than your state. Explains a lot about Palin and her reign as Governor there.
If only there was as much coverage on Pelosi (with over 20 years in politics)and the things she says and does as there is on palin, I think people might have some perspective on crazy ****es.
I've seen first hand just how bat shit crazy and completely out of touch Pelosi is.
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It was sad to see Charlie Gibson, a journalist I long-respected, sink down to the level of "gotcha" reporting. He and/or his producers were hoping for just such a moment by asking an irrelevant and obscure question to a known political rookie.
However, I stand behind my previous statement. SP needs to go away.
Maybe when 87 goes to visit his niece in Wasila he can hold her tight and sing sweet republican hymns to her for comfort.
Funny. On another thread you said you weren't a lib but you never miss a chance for shitty and snarky comments that would make 3XVag proud.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sheila_Jackson_LeeThe Hill reported in 1997 that Jackson Lee had asked NASA officials whether the Mars Pathfinder photographed the U.S. flag that Neil Armstrong had planted on Mars. When this incident was reported, her chief of staff wrote a letter to the editor suggesting that it had been racist to point out the congresswoman's error
****es in Palin and Jackson holding these offices is really a joke on us. Not on Republicans and Democrats the parties.
I am sure they're happy in their offices monitoring our boards in the name of "safety" and "security" watching us slinging mud at eachother.
In July 2010 Jackson Lee said: "Today, we have two Vietnams, side by side, North and South, exchanging and working. We may not agree with all that North Vietnam is doing, but they are living in peace. I would look for a better human rights record for North Vietnam, but they are living side by side.” It was noted that Vietnam had not been split for four decades.
Gibson knew she wasn't up to speed yet and, as I said earlier, chose to play "gotcha" journalism. Is/was it a fair topic? Yes, probably. But you can tell what he was doing in the way he asked the question...(paraphrasing) "What do you think of the Bush Doctrine?". That's a very high-level question in which, I'm guessing here, if she'd knocked it out of the park, he wouldn't have had a follow-up. If he'd been serious about anything beyond "quizzing" her, he would have asked the question as part of a deeper question: "Do you think the Bush Doctrine applies as part of ... ".
It was transparent.
And just two more things: The Bush Doctrine has meant different things at different times. The media and the pundits have given it several variations.
Secondly, I'm re-iterating that my post was not about defending Palin. I really do want her to get off my TV. My post was to reflect my disappointment in someone who I consider to have been a fine journalist throughout his career.
If anyone thinks that question, posed to a Vice-Presidential candidate, is irrelevant and obscure, then I don't even know what to say. The fact that she was a novice, a governor of a small, state with zero international experience, etc. is completely irrelevant to the press asking her questions about her political positions. In fact, if she had known what the Bush Doctrine means, then she simply could have answered and no one would be laughing at her almost a half of a decade after that embarrassing interview.
As for the the meaning of the Bush Doctrine after 9/11, pretty much everyone who spent five minutes a day following the news knew what it meant. She could have simply told Gibson why she did or did not believe in that Doctrine. Hard to believe you or anyone else with any objectivity would think that is a "gotcha" question or irrelevant and obscure.
But at the time, the media was looking for a way to tear her down. Sadly, Charlie used his interview to poke and prod until he came up with this gem. He knew that if he got her on something it would live on and become a definitive clip of the campaign and beyond.
Your statement of anyone who spent five minutes watching the news would know about the Bush Doctrine is a stretch. If you're that plugged in, that's great... and if you are, then you know most are not. Even the unprepared, unready Governor of Alaska.
Yes, it was and still is a "gotcha" question. Fully scripted. To think otherwise is a bit naive and gives too much credit to the news media ... even an icon like CG.
His follow-up question of "What do you interpret it to be?" further exposes his reason for asking the original question. He was clearly asking -- from the get-go -- if she knew what it was, guised in the "Do you agree with it?" question. If the definition was as universally-known as you and Charlie seem to believe, then of course she agrees with something President Bush had put in motnion. There's no reason to even ask that question to begin with. It's like asking a liberal if they agree with univeral healthcare.
Furthermore, Alaska does have to import most of its goods from out of state, that comes with the territory of being remote and sparsely populated. This, and the fact that the state's population is so little are the reasons the total rank is low.
Alaska is number 3 in oil production, but easily could and should be number 1 if it wasn't for gross federal overreach and hypocrisy.
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Look, you are generally a good poster, but you are either incredibly naive or just being intentionally obtuse if you are going to sit there and act like the media didnt attack Palin with a ferocity and bias never before seen in national politics. And on a larger point, pretending that the both elections werent essentially won FOR Obama by the media is just ****ing silly. Come on man, it's over. There is no point in lying about it anymore.
Let me guess, you still pretend you REALLY want John Kerry to be the president in 2004?
The difference between her and Joe can best be illustrated as "defensive" vs. "self deprecating"
Clinton basically decimated the timber industry in this state with massive federal overreach and environmental regulations that actually violate ANCSA, forcing the closure of nearly all pulp mills.
Considering Alaska is basically shipping raw commodities, it's rank is pretty damn good.
Apparently you can see a Russian Island from an Alaskan island in the Bering but they are further apart than two miles. Supposedly there is another place on an island that you can see Siberia as well. So Palin is technically correct.
However she made another comment that shows her lack of knowledge concerning Russia when she said (paraphrase) "When Putin rears his ugly head and comes to America he flies over Alaska." Flight patterns from Russia go nowhere near Alaska.
It is 2.4 miles from Alaska to Russia (soil to soil).