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January 30th, 2013 01:55 PM
I didn't say they didn't, I said it's the same thing. I have 2 daughters that are in Girl Scouts and men aren't allowed at overnight events. (If they were my girls wouldn't be going). For the same reason **** men shouldn't be allowed at Boy Scout overnight events. The same for heterosexual women at Boy Scout overnight events, and lesbians at Girl Scout overnight events. With that being said I do realize their is a much lower chance of a woman being the abuser regardless of sexual orientation. Men on the other hand are much much greater percentage of the abusers, again regardless of their sexual orientation. I would be much more afraid of heterosexual men at a GS overnight event than a **** men at a BS overnight event, even though I believe neither should be there.
January 30th, 2013 01:56 PM
How is this a problem. I have the ability to teach the things BSA wants the kids to learn, plus after 8th grade your child is eligible for Sea Scouts and Co-Ed Venture Scouts. I am a heterosexual woman who does not have sex with little boys and I see no issue with women scout leaders or male girl scout leaders. There are a lot of dads out there who are awesome with their daughters and have no sexual desire for under aged girls.
Just like teachers, church clergy and people of other authority. The situations are individual and can't be generalized.
January 30th, 2013 02:01 PM
can you piss on the campfire while standing up?
January 30th, 2013 02:14 PM
In a perfect world it wouldn't be! As you know it isn't a perfect world! Not a chance in hell would I allow my daughters go to a camp with male leaders and staff. Unless every child has a parent accompanying them. You can call me over protective, I'm okay with that.
January 30th, 2013 02:18 PM
So you're okay with the BSA getting rid of its stance on homosexuals so long as people attracted to men aren't allowed on overnight camping trips?
January 30th, 2013 03:43 PM
I'm sorry you don't understand my point. Maybe if you read it again a few times, or maybe just really slow.
January 30th, 2013 03:46 PM
I'm sorry you (like so many others) fail to understand that homosexuality ≠ pedophilia.
Glad to have you in the 'dome, though. You'll fit in well.
January 30th, 2013 03:58 PM
Again you missed my point, maybe try reading it really slow, use a dictionary if you need to.
January 30th, 2013 06:01 PM
You've even got the no content "You-didn't-understand-me!" rebuttal down already. You're assimilating well.
So it sounds like what you don't want is people who are attracted to a certain gender spending time with children of that gender at overnight events... which led me to ask:
You said hetero women and **** men(people attracted to men) shouldn't be allowed to go on overnight trips with scouts, I'm just wondering if that is the limit of your concern.
January 30th, 2013 08:19 PM
It's really a pretty simple concept, I'm not sure what you're not understanding.
I have no problems with **** people, it's not my thing but what you want to do is your business. So lets try this again:
If you are attracted to men, or are a female you don't go camping with young boys unless they are yours, or their parent is there.
If you are attracted to women, or you are a male don't go camping with young girls unless they are yours, or their parent is there.
If you are attracted to both you don't get to go camping with children unless they are yours, or their parent is there.
If you are attracted to children you don't get to go camping with children, and should be in prison.
So whatever scenario you wish to run past me, just use the above rules and you'll have your answer.
Last edited by JDShellnutt; January 30th, 2013 at 08:53 PM.
January 30th, 2013 09:16 PM
Re: scouts going ****...
Not one book or training from the scouts can I find this
February 4th, 2013 10:07 AM
Obama says Boy Scouts should allow **** members, women should be allowed in combat roles
02-03-2013 05:36 PM CST |By NEDRA PICKLER, Associated Press
WASHINGTON (Associated Press) --
President Barack Obama said Sunday that ****s should be allowed in the Boy Scouts and women should be allowed in military combat roles, weighing in on two storied American institutions facing proposals to end long-held exclusions.
The president's comments in a pre-Super Bowl interview on CBS come ahead of this week's meeting of the Boy Scouts' national executive board. A proposal to open up the Scouts' membership to ****s is expected to be discussed and possibly voted on at the gathering in Texas.
The Boy Scouts emphatically reaffirmed the no-****s policy just seven months ago, but announced last week they were considering changing the stance. Instead of mandatory exclusion of ****s, the different religious and civic groups that sponsor Scout units would be able to decide for themselves how to address the issue _ either maintaining the exclusion or opening up their membership.
The White House said in a statement last August that Obama opposed the **** ban. Obama, like presidents for the last century, serves as honorary president of the group. The president's comment Sunday was his first since the group announced it was considering a policy change.
"My attitude is that ****s and lesbians should have access and opportunity the same way everybody else does in every institution and walk of life," Obama said. "The Scouts are a great institution that are promoting young people and exposing them to opportunities and leadership that will serve people for the rest of their lives. And I think nobody should be barred from that."
February 4th, 2013 12:53 PM
I'm not sure I'd want my daughters on an overnight trip with a male scoutmaster without a female adult present . . .
February 4th, 2013 12:59 PM
you didn't answer my question...
February 4th, 2013 01:11 PM
A: Depends upon the size of the fire.
February 5th, 2013 08:13 AM
****s-at-center-of-boy-scouts-board-meeting.html" target="_blank">Vote to Eliminate Ban on ****s in Boy Scouts Is on Agenda at Board Meeting
Girls joining the boy scouts now?
“The proposed change is a good thing for scouting and a good thing for young men and women,” the committee’s chairman, A. J. Kreimer, said in an interview.
February 5th, 2013 08:18 AM
Surely that would be the next evolutionary step.
February 5th, 2013 08:23 AM
National Jewish chair on scouting?
February 5th, 2013 09:22 PM
Even if nothing is wrong it's a recipe for disaster. I was never alone with one of my daughter's friends. If they needed a ride home my daughter went with me. I didn't want to put myself in a position where anything could be alleged at any time. Any accusation, no matter how untrue, would ruin a man's life.
February 6th, 2013 08:05 AM
There is no way I'd go on an overnight trip with my daughters and some of their friends in a situation like being discussed here without my wife . . . even then I'd try to get out of it.
February 6th, 2013 11:28 AM
Sounds as if the Scouts are putting this on hold for a bit. No word yet from the first **** Scoutmaster in Chief.
I always remember that Billy Graham never was alone with a woman. Not in a room, elevator, etc. He always made sure someone was with him.
February 6th, 2013 11:32 AM
Mom saved damn near anything...from my old Handbook...1966......brainwashed and writing in code...
February 6th, 2013 11:33 AM
1963? I'm feeling younger all the time! ****you.gif" border="0" alt="" title=":D" class="inlineimg" />
February 6th, 2013 11:38 AM
I screwed up...it is actually 1966...gotta edit that...I would have been 12...
February 6th, 2013 11:39 AM
Did he just invite over some Bob Crane type when his kids were conceived?
February 6th, 2013 11:45 AM
Sorry. I guess I didn't realize the need for clarification. A woman other than his wife.
Bob Crane is my hero.
February 6th, 2013 11:46 AM
Yeah...I was just joking.
Somehow I knew you would appreciate the reference
February 6th, 2013 11:57 AM
Sure. My hero. Dude not only banged everything in hollywood but he got it on film. Of course right up to that camera tripod thing.
February 6th, 2013 12:05 PM
So as a dude, the only people attracted to me are **** men?
February 6th, 2013 12:16 PM
I'm going out on a limb here, but I'm guessing not even **** men are attracted to you.
Originally Posted by Orange is ugly
February 6th, 2013 12:23 PM
Your harsh words make me sad.
February 6th, 2013 12:42 PM
A Boy Scout is honest...
Originally Posted by Orange is ugly