Just goes to show how much recruiting rankings mean.
Its interesting to read about Lamar Harris as well. Merv's comments on his athletism parrallels some comments made from a friend of mine on ths inside. He was telling me from day 1, that Lamar Harris was a freak athlete...and that I should just wait and see that he was a badass. However It never came to fruition.
Which ranks as the biggest black hole of a recruiting class for OU: 2003 or 2008?
This only shows why OU coaches need to perform better player evaluations and be better at signing who they want.
There is a lot more involved with this than athletic talent.
A team of good character, high desire and smart players will beat a team of more talented players when they don’t do things right and care more about their own desires than the teams goals.
On further review, 2008 was a star-crossed class no doubt but we did get several quality starters. 2003 was way worse imo, a very highly-rated class that almost completely evaporated:
Joe Jon Finley
Guiterrez and Nicholson started. Choice and Tommy Grady eventually started for other schools. Did Millington ever start?
I was friends with Zimpel in high school. Disappointing that he didn't pan out like I thought he would.
Dejuan's beast mode stayed in NJ.
I never put much thought into recruiting rankings or anything. But Dejuan Miller disappointed me more than any other player I can think of under Stoops not named Rhett Bomar. But at least Bomar showed signs that he could be good, he was just an idiot. Miller was a total bust though.
does it look like the '09 class is going to end up much better? not by much if so
Nicholson was JUCO but a starter for two years and a really good player for OU.
Millington never started. He was tabbed to be the starting LT at the beginning of 05 and quit. I heard players were throwing his shit out of his locker outside of the Switzer center.
Wow, Weird.. Makes you wonder why so many didn't pan out.. I would think if you look at 5 star HS athletes most live up to that billing.. I believe they do so weird for sure..
Athlon usually does a article in the pre-season magazine about the top 50 recruits from 5 years earlier. Surprisingly a good number don't really pan out as expected. Most seemed wind up as solid but not special players.
Despite this season's shortfall for the 2008 class, the study underscores why Oklahoma -- with eight Big 12 titles in 14 seasons under coach Bob Stoops -- has been the most consistent program in the league. The Sooners, despite receiving only three production points from the 2008 class, still have the highest three-year total (62 points) of any former South Division school.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02...#storylink=cpy
You kinda have to develop players. I think Bob has swerved into some great talent like Tommie Harris, and Adrian and those guys were just physical specimens that would have excelled at any school. I think OU believes they developed these guys but if you look at the big picture, OU seems to have done a poorer job of getting these guys up to par than most consistent top 5-10 teams.
I think of guys like Bradford and Clayton who even the coaches said had a strong work ethic on their own and put in their own time to get better. I guess it's hard to say if the coaching staff is consistently picking up overrated players or is just not bringing them along and making them better.
Last edited by SoCaliSooner; February 4th, 2013 at 08:18 PM.
The championships that OU Football has won since 2008 are not particularly remarkable by OU standards!
As far the OU standards go, a lot of you need to get out of the 70's and 80's. Back when OU played in an 8 team league with only 1 other program that could compete with them in the league. In the 80's, OU/Switzer didn't fare all that well when they played decent non conf opponents. Stanford, West Virgina, USC and Miami all came to Owen Field and whipped our ass in the early 80's alone.
Again, I won't disagree that some things in Norman have gotten stale lately. But this is completely different landscape than it used to be. Switzer says it all the time
I may be off on this but if Gute ever started another game at RB besides his big effort vs. Baylor in '05, I'm having a hard time remembering it.
Here's an article the Fort Worth telegram wrote analysing all the Big 12 teams from 2008. OU wasn't the only recruiting class that didn't live up to it's billing.
I hope the problems at OU are easily fixed and will be fixed quickly by Bob.
OU now has a university that its football team can be proud of.
OU’s new student housing center puts OU in very good shape for player facilities.
There is still plenty of very good talent with in a day’s drive of Norman.
Things haven’t changed so much that OU can’t win national titles….
"Different landscape", when other can still win, that’s tantamount to making excuses!
It must take an amazing journalistic talent to write about something that happened five years ago.
Hopefully that will be the case with this class.