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February 4th, 2013 01:26 PM
Jake Trotter wrote a pretty good piece on the 2008 recruiting class...
February 4th, 2013 01:48 PM
Just goes to show how much recruiting rankings mean.
February 4th, 2013 02:09 PM
Its interesting to read about Lamar Harris as well. Merv's comments on his athletism parrallels some comments made from a friend of mine on ths inside. He was telling me from day 1, that Lamar Harris was a freak athlete...and that I should just wait and see that he was a badass. However It never came to fruition.
February 4th, 2013 02:12 PM
Which ranks as the biggest black hole of a recruiting class for OU: 2003 or 2008?
February 4th, 2013 02:19 PM
This only shows why OU coaches need to perform better player evaluations and be better at signing who they want.
There is a lot more involved with this than athletic talent.
A team of good character, high desire and smart players will beat a team of more talented players when they don’t do things right and care more about their own desires than the teams goals.
February 4th, 2013 03:14 PM
On further review, 2008 was a star-crossed class no doubt but we did get several quality starters. 2003 was way worse imo, a very highly-rated class that almost completely evaporated:
Joe Jon Finley
February 4th, 2013 03:21 PM
The 2003 group attrition was 50%, Surprisingly the 2008 group didn't lose as many players but only two or three lived up to their advanced billing.
February 4th, 2013 03:24 PM
Guiterrez and Nicholson started. Choice and Tommy Grady eventually started for other schools. Did Millington ever start?
February 4th, 2013 03:29 PM
February 4th, 2013 03:35 PM
I was friends with Zimpel in high school. Disappointing that he didn't pan out like I thought he would.
February 4th, 2013 03:41 PM
Dejuan's beast mode stayed in NJ.
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February 4th, 2013 04:32 PM
I never put much thought into recruiting rankings or anything. But Dejuan Miller disappointed me more than any other player I can think of under Stoops not named Rhett Bomar. But at least Bomar showed signs that he could be good, he was just an idiot. Miller was a total bust though.
February 4th, 2013 04:47 PM
does it look like the '09 class is going to end up much better? not by much if so
February 4th, 2013 04:49 PM
He started here I believe and then he started at Illinois. I don't think Grady started for Utah as the regular guy but may have started a game or two due to injury much like Gute did at OU.
Nicholson was JUCO but a starter for two years and a really good player for OU.
February 4th, 2013 04:57 PM
Jake Trotter wrote a pretty good piece on the 2008 recruiting class...
And can take a taser like a boss.
February 4th, 2013 05:04 PM
Millington never started. He was tabbed to be the starting LT at the beginning of 05 and quit. I heard players were throwing his shit out of his locker outside of the Switzer center.
February 4th, 2013 05:29 PM
Wow, Weird.. Makes you wonder why so many didn't pan out.. I would think if you look at 5 star HS athletes most live up to that billing.. I believe they do so weird for sure..
February 4th, 2013 05:47 PM
Athlon usually does a article in the pre-season magazine about the top 50 recruits from 5 years earlier. Surprisingly a good number don't really pan out as expected. Most seemed wind up as solid but not special players.
February 4th, 2013 06:53 PM
Yet we are the most successful program in the Big 12. This blurb was taken from the Forth Worth Star Telegram
Despite this season's shortfall for the 2008 class, the study underscores why Oklahoma -- with eight Big 12 titles in 14 seasons under coach Bob Stoops -- has been the most consistent program in the league. The Sooners, despite receiving only three production points from the 2008 class, still have the highest three-year total (62 points) of any former South Division school.
Read more here: http://www.star-telegram.com/2013/02...#storylink=cpy
February 4th, 2013 07:56 PM
His Royal Highness the Honorable King of LandThieves Esq. III
You kinda have to develop players. I think Bob has swerved into some great talent like Tommie Harris, and Adrian and those guys were just physical specimens that would have excelled at any school. I think OU believes they developed these guys but if you look at the big picture, OU seems to have done a poorer job of getting these guys up to par than most consistent top 5-10 teams.
I think of guys like Bradford and Clayton who even the coaches said had a strong work ethic on their own and put in their own time to get better. I guess it's hard to say if the coaching staff is consistently picking up overrated players or is just not bringing them along and making them better.
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February 4th, 2013 09:05 PM
If OU coaches are doing their jobs…. and among other things that include bringing in the right players... all it takes is the right leadership to put the championship recipe together.
The championships that OU Football has won since 2008 are not particularly remarkable by OU standards!
February 4th, 2013 10:43 PM
I will agree that there are some issues right now but here is an article pointing out that OU has done better than any of its direct competitors and yet the coaches are accused of not doing their jobs. Tough crowd
As far the OU standards go, a lot of you need to get out of the 70's and 80's. Back when OU played in an 8 team league with only 1 other program that could compete with them in the league. In the 80's, OU/Switzer didn't fare all that well when they played decent non conf opponents. Stanford, West Virgina, USC and Miami all came to Owen Field and whipped our ass in the early 80's alone.
Again, I won't disagree that some things in Norman have gotten stale lately. But this is completely different landscape than it used to be. Switzer says it all the time
February 5th, 2013 01:20 AM
I don't think Gute started that much but he was a fan favorite. I remember looking at the 04 class and outside of AD it was pretty shitty too. I think Hartley was in that class and he was probably the 2nd best player in that class overall.
February 5th, 2013 02:14 AM
I may be off on this but if Gute ever started another game at RB besides his big effort vs. Baylor in '05, I'm having a hard time remembering it.
February 5th, 2013 02:53 AM
I doubt it since our RBs while he was here were both pretty good backs in AD and Patrick. Then Murray/Brown his last year maybe. Can't remember if his last year was 06 or 07. But he did play some throughout his career. And was a locker room leader and fan favorite.
Originally Posted by Salt City Sooner
February 5th, 2013 01:49 PM
Here's an article the Fort Worth telegram wrote analysing all the Big 12 teams from 2008. OU wasn't the only recruiting class that didn't live up to it's billing.
February 5th, 2013 02:05 PM
I hope the problems at OU are easily fixed and will be fixed quickly by Bob.
February 5th, 2013 02:07 PM
The point is that OU coaches are not doing their jobs as well as the coaches who have been wining national titles.
OU now has a university that its football team can be proud of.
OU’s new student housing center puts OU in very good shape for player facilities.
There is still plenty of very good talent with in a day’s drive of Norman.
Things haven’t changed so much that OU can’t win national titles….
"Different landscape", when other can still win, that’s tantamount to making excuses!
February 5th, 2013 03:22 PM
It must take an amazing journalistic talent to write about something that happened five years ago.
February 5th, 2013 03:30 PM
It's actually how all recruiting classes should be evaluated in the end. Based on what they actually do instead of what you hope they can do.
February 5th, 2013 06:24 PM
I think some people see recruiting as some sort of beauty pageant, but my feeling is if you get 10 guys who contribute a lot out of a class (of 20-25) with 2-3 difference makers you have a had a heck of a class no matter what it looked like when they came in.
Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian
Hopefully that will be the case with this class.