**** Pejoratives vs. Racial Slurs

[PokeJ]

Pretending you're something you're not on the internet is bad form.

So are you implying that 180 is TB?

[Dexa]

Yes, language evolves and old words take on new meanings for any number of reasons. But, as of today in the evolution of American English, the primary usage of the words **** and / have homosexual connotations. By calling out someone's stupidity by saying, "Don't be a ." or "That's ****.", one is equating ****ness with stupidity. That is the issue. If someone is ****, call him/her ****. If someone says something stupid, call his/her statement stupid.

That's fine. And I can say the exact same thing about the word **** taking on a connotation of "stupid" by a younger generation.

Is one more correct than the other? If so, why?

[keefsmangledfingers]

So are you implying that 180 is TB?

No, I'm hoping he's Daniel Tosh.

[ltsooner]

I'm not Daniel Tosh. And, I actually know a **** Roger.

Is he jolly as well as ****?

[180WestBrooks]

That's fine. And I can say the exact same thing about the word **** taking on a connotation of "stupid" by a younger generation.

Is one more correct than the other? If so, why?

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

[stev]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

your opinion is super ****

[PokeJ]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

180 appears to be alternating between witty replies and serious replies. That's so confusing on this board.

[SMC]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

Random quote that doesnt apply to my question

Did you only know Roger was **** because he was introduced that way?

[Dexa]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

I'm sure it is. I just find it absurd that when someone doesn't want to be called something that is offensive to them (such as ) that when the word is changed to be offensive in another way.. the first group is still offended by it.

I will say that since I am a heterosexual, white male, I honestly cannot begin to understand what it feels like to be descriminated against based on race, ****, or ****ual orientation. Like I said.. I do try to avoid using offensive language, especially in company of those who might feel strongly about the words. It still doesn't change how I feel about the war on words.

[Gary Manilow]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

Offensive to homosexuals or stupid people?

[ltsooner]

I'm sure it is. I just find it absurd that when someone doesn't want to be called something that is offensive to them (such as ) that when the word is changed to be offensive in another way.. the first group is still offended by it.

I will say that since I am a heterosexual, white male, I honestly cannot begin to understand what it feels like to be descriminated against based on race, ****, or ****ual orientation. Like I said.. I do try to avoid using offensive language, especially in company of those who might feel strongly about the words. It still doesn't change how I feel about the war on words.

You haven't tried applying for a government job lately.

[TyoungPunch]

The only thing ****er than the name Roger is the people who use the word "roger" as a verb.

[DIB]

The only thing ****er than the name Roger is the people who use the word "roger" as a verb.

Sounds like someone needs a good rogering...

[PokeJ]

Sounds like someone needs a good rogering...

Roger that

[Dexa]

You haven't tried applying for a government job lately.

I'm still .mil

I have 11 more years to worry about that.

[180WestBrooks]

I'm sure it is. I just find it absurd that when someone doesn't want to be called something that is offensive to them (such as ) that when the word is changed to be offensive in another way.. the first group is still offended by it.

I will say that since I am a heterosexual, white male, I honestly cannot begin to understand what it feels like to be descriminated against based on race, ****, or ****ual orientation. Like I said.. I do try to avoid using offensive language, especially in company of those who might feel strongly about the words. It still doesn't change how I feel about the war on words.

I'm with you on hetero, white male thing.

But I differ on the old offensive word being used in a new offensive way thought. Regardless if the new "" means stupid, it still harkens back to the old "", thus equating the two to some extent. I don't think most here (or elsewhere) using "" as stupid intend it in any homophobic sense. But, the fact is "" will never be completely disassociated from homosexuality, so calling out a stupid statement with "Don't be a ." is offensive to an entire subset of the population that is no stupider or smarter than other subsets.

Saying someone is "stupid" implies inferiority of smartness. By equating "stupid" and "****", one equates homosexuality with inferiority. If a = b and b = c, then b = c.

I was guilty of using "" and all the other ****ish words in place of stupid when I was younger. I still do among friends who know exactly where I stand on the issue. But, the fact that an entire generation and (it appears) the next use it in the stupid context doesn't make it any less offensive. And, I don't think that usage in a public forum is a proper one.

[greensooner]

The only thing ****er than the name Roger is the people who use the word "roger" as a verb.

Roger Roger, what's your vector Victor?

Surely you can't be serious?

-I am, and don't call me Shirley!!!

[ltsooner]

I was guilty of using "" and all the other ****ish words in place of stupid when I was younger. I still do among friends who know exactly where I stand on the issue. But, the fact that an entire generation and (it appears) the next use it in the stupid context doesn't make it any less offensive. And, I don't think that usage in a public forum is a proper one.

You sound like a liberal version of ...


Quit hating, hater.

[Gary Manilow]

I'm not saying one is more or less correct in a current usage context. I'm just saying using "****" in place of stupid is offensive.

I'm with you on hetero, white male thing.

But I differ on the old offensive word being used in a new offensive way thought. Regardless if the new "" means stupid, it still harkens back to the old "", thus equating the two to some extent. I don't think most here (or elsewhere) using "" as stupid intend it in any homophobic sense. But, the fact is "" will never be completely disassociated from homosexuality, so calling out a stupid statement with "Don't be a ." is offensive to an entire subset of the population that is no stupider or smarter than other subsets.

Saying someone is "stupid" implies inferiority of smartness. By equating "stupid" and "****", one equates homosexuality with inferiority. If a = b and b = c, then b = c.

I was guilty of using "" and all the other ****ish words in place of stupid when I was younger. I still do among friends who know exactly where I stand on the issue. But, the fact that an entire generation and (it appears) the next use it in the stupid context doesn't make it any less offensive. And, I don't think that usage in a public forum is a proper one.

No. The old "" meant cigarette, not homosexual. If the original meaning of the word were offensive, like most racial slurs, then yes, using it in an fashion would be inherently offensive.

[Palmbeachsooner]

Political correctness has warped some of you.

[Yuck Fu]

****gots are apparently pretty tasty!!

[McRib]

I once saw an OU blonde with a black ****. Far from being offended, I was distantly aroused.

Twas not moi.

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[ltsooner]

Political correctness has warped some of you.

Political correctness has kept society from having an honest conversation about race, ****s, religion, etc... We are too worried about offending and being offended to stop caring about whether people are ****, straight, black, white and so on.

[brokebacksooner]

The thing is what about those who don't give a rip and aren't offended and don't quickly to label something racist or homophobic? Are those the true homophobes you're speaking of or what?

Whether people want to admit it or not . . . you can choose to not be offended by everything you disagree with in life.

I thought I was fairly clear that I'm not offended; however if you walk around calling **** men "s" and think we all love to dress in drag, or refer to **** women as "****s" and they all dress in flannel and wear mullets; you might be a homophobe. You can also use homophobe words and have homophobic stereotypes without being a homophobe. Usually education can "cure" that.

May I ask why one group of people gets to claim a word and use it as their own, and if another attempts to, it's now a problem?

I ask this because I used to say "that's ****" a lot. It never meant "that is homosexual" it was synonymous with "that's stupid." I understand how homosexuals could still be offended by this because you could easily connect **** with stupid, even if that wasn't the intent.

I eventually stopped saying it for no other reason than I got older and it sounds weird, and I'm probably too old to say "that's ****" or to call someone a on call of duty.

With that being said, when you're around people who use these terms, and they do not ****ociate it with homosexuals, do they offend you? And if so, why? (not people who call you those names specifically, people who just freely use them for other than their currently interpreted meaning)

Words are like that. Language evolves.

Since we shouldn't use is the term "**** Gobbler" acceptable? A friend wants to know . . .

Not all of us are **** gobblers; some are strictly tops; some are only into... I won't overshare too much.

I am offended that Brokeback is **** (for real?) and has picked the name of a movie that is held up as the standard for homosexual joking, and used it as his own

What kind of self respecting **** person would pick a derogatory name, and then judge from his high horse? Hos fantastic white high horse, with flowing robes and a matching scarf.

Brokeback Mountain is an academy award winning movie and not the "standard for homosexual joking" in the **** community. I identify with one of the characters. It's the name I chose, get over it. No flowing robes; too ****bersome, but a matching scarf is always a must.

Are you really suggesting we go around calling **** people "****"? You go first.

Yes.

Are you Daniel Tosh?

Also, nobody named Roger is ****, please edit your example.

All **** men are named Mark, Rick or Steve and all **** men have track lighting...

Political correctness has kept society from having an honest conversation about race, ****s, religion, etc... We are too worried about offending and being offended to stop caring about whether people are ****, straight, black, white and so on.

Some political correction is a good thing. "Do unto others..." and what not. Yes some people make a living out of being offended and would get more out of life if they didn't sweat the small stuff.

[McRib]

I thought I was fairly clear that I'm not offended; however if you walk around calling **** men "s" and think we all love to dress in drag, or refer to **** women as "****s" and they all dress in flannel and wear mullets; you might be a homophobe. You can also use homophobe words and have homophobic stereotypes without being a homophobe. Usually education can "cure" that.



Words are like that. Language evolves.



Not all of us are **** gobblers; some are strictly tops; some are only into... I won't overshare too much.



Brokeback Mountain is an academy award winning movie and not the "standard for homosexual joking" in the **** community. I identify with one of the characters. It's the name I chose, get over it. No flowing robes; too ****bersome, but a matching scarf is always a must.



Yes.



All **** men are named Mark, Rick or Steve and all **** men have track lighting...



Some political correction is a good thing. "Do unto others..." and what not. Yes some people make a living out of being offended and would get more out of life if they didn't sweat the small stuff.

PROOF!!!!! PROOOOOOOOOOOOF!!!!!
100% confirmed. Brokeback is a big mo. And I adore him.




Also? BbM is a great short story that won a couple of literature awards & was Pulitzer finalist.

[oucub23]

MO?

[brokebacksooner]

MO?

Homo

[McRib]

Homo

And I love you! You forgot that part!

[greensooner]

I thought I was fairly clear that I'm not offended; however if you walk around calling **** men "s" and think we all love to dress in drag, or refer to **** women as "****s" and they all dress in flannel and wear mullets; you might be a homophobe. You can also use homophobe words and have homophobic stereotypes without being a homophobe. Usually education can "cure" that.



Words are like that. Language evolves.



Not all of us are **** gobblers; some are strictly tops; some are only into... I won't overshare too much.



Brokeback Mountain is an academy award winning movie and not the "standard for homosexual joking" in the **** community. I identify with one of the characters. It's the name I chose, get over it. No flowing robes; too ****bersome, but a matching scarf is always a must.



Yes.



All **** men are named Mark, Rick or Steve and all **** men have track lighting...



Some political correction is a good thing. "Do unto others..." and what not. Yes some people make a living out of being offended and would get more out of life if they didn't sweat the small stuff.

so I take it you're not a power bottom eh?

[brokebacksooner]

so I take it you're not a power bottom eh?

Well actually.....

[TyoungPunch]

Well actually.....

You are officially the best homosexual on the board.


180 is a reluctant bottom at best.

[greensooner]

Well actually.....

I learned this from IASIP so correct me if I'm wrong but a power bottom is a bottom that can take a tremendous amount of power

[brokebacksooner]

You are officially the best homosexual on the board.


180 is a reluctant bottom at best.

It's easy to be the best when competing against no one (or Bounce; same difference).

I learned this from IASIP so correct me if I'm wrong but a power bottom is a bottom that can take a tremendous amount of power

Something like that...