Kittle out

[Salt City Sooner]

No thanks. Norvell is great at recruiting WR's and coaching them. However, he's not a good OC. Look back at his days at Nebraska and UCLA. He passed it every down at Nebraska with the west coast offense, which is what we have become.

Heupel is far from perfect at calling plays, but he's far more balanced than Norvell.

Uh, no. NU's plays from his coordinator years:

2004- 412 runs, 322 passes
2005- 420 runs, 444 passes
2006- 554 runs, 411 passes

http://www.huskers.com/SportSelect.d...&db_oem_id=100

It's really unfair to judge Norvell one way or the other as an OC because he's yet to be in a decent situation as one. At NU, they had to overhaul the personnel from Solich's option O to the WCO, & in his one year as OC at UCLA, they were down to their 4th string QB by the end of the year.

[SECsooner]

Now if we can replace the OC and let Josh be the QB coach only.

Yes Please.

[mazeppa pompazoidi]

You think he'll be a better QB? Based on what? Blind faith? Neither you nor I knows how good he'll be as QB, or even if he will get the job. **** picker.

Apparently, you are not receiving the message ZCAA0G is conveying. He never said it was all on Landry and you haven't disputed a single thing he stated about Landry. The other part of being a championship QB is being willing to put it on the line, physically, when needed. Show your teammates you're willing to give it all to succeed. Sam's flip/launch against osu, Jason's ability to get yards with his feet even after both knees having surgery, Nate's willingness to take a hit in the pocket and still delivering the throw. These are all part of the 'IT' factor we all want to see in our quarterback. Make those around you better and play harder. As much as I like Landry and all he stands for, he didn't have these qualities. I'd like my daughters to marry a guy like Landry, but I'm looking forward to the post-Landry days.

Blake seems to inspire the team with his play. No, the Belldozer wasn't 100% successful, but I felt a charge to the team when he entered the game.
He can make plays with his feet if the play breaks down. That's what we're all hoping for with this change.

[masonb09]

'Stunned Bedenbaugh' says 'hell ya'!

Can someone please shop a burger in his hand

[SoonerLibertarian]

You think he'll be a better QB? Based on what? Blind faith? Neither you nor I knows how good he'll be as QB, or even if he will get the job. **** picker.

Exactly he could be a worse QB for all we know. Let him prove it out there. All we've seen him do is be a glorified full back. I'm sorry but nobody is really running the T-formation as a main offense anymore. What we really need to do is get away from this spread stuff.

[OkieforOU]

I am in minority here, but I like Heuple as OC.

I'm hardly qualified to judge, but Heupel hasn't done anything to cause me to really dislike him as OC. Hard to call a run game when you know your OL can't block??? Hard to stay with the passing game when your QB keeps slumping like Landry did.
I was a little disappointed with OU's lack of creativity in the red zone but lack of a TE may have limited them some there???

[Yuck Fu]

No we're realizing we were correct all these years, in spite of all the sunshine pumpers telling us otherwise, and we're puffin on our cigars. We have been heard.

Although Bob was maybe a bit late on pulling the trigger on some staff changes I imagine it is hard to do so after working with the same people for so long. I would think that anybody who has been involved in leadership roles has to go through something like this during their careers. Hopefully it is a lesson learned for him and won't be as hard to implement staff changes in the future if their is need to do so.

[SoonerLibertarian]

We still have to see if changes are really made first. We don't know if anything will change philosophically as of now. We have the same OC, DC, and head coach. Those areas dictate philosophy not position coaches.

[Sooner 76]

No we're realizing we were correct all these years, in spite of all the sunshine pumpers telling us otherwise, and we're puffin on our cigars. We have been heard.

Right, because Stoops, Joe, and Boren listen to the fans.

[lobster999]

Right, because Stoops, Joe, and Boren listen to the fans.

They listen to the donors.

[zcaa0g]

You think he'll be a better QB? Based on what? Blind faith? Neither you nor I knows how good he'll be as QB, or even if he will get the job. **** picker.

We do know Blake Bell isn't afraid to take one for the team unlike Landry Jones. That's a start. We also know that he can run, which Landry Jones couldn't, that's another start. So right there, he has two things that Landry Jones didn't. He will easily be a better leader than Landry Jones since Landry Jones wasn't one.

Now we'll just have to see about decision making and passing capability. Landry Jones was more of a liability than an ****et for the past 4 years and I am glad he is gone. He held OU back.

[ousooner_4]

No thanks. Norvell is great at recruiting WR's and coaching them. However, he's not a good OC. Look back at his days at Nebraska and UCLA. He passed it every down at Nebraska with the west coast offense, which is what we have become.

Heupel is far from perfect at calling plays, but he's far more balanced than Norvell.

Heupel's offense is nowhere near "balanced"......good God, we were throwing it 70 times a game at the end of the season. Heupel's problem is that he does not have an offensive philosophy

[The]

Now, if we can just abandon the Meercat Offense, we may be moving in the right direction.

[caldie]

Now, if we can just abandon the Meercat Offense, we may be moving in the right direction.

This.

[85sooners]

Lets do this

[BMR]

So are all those said Stoops was lazy and complacent going to come on here and eat some crow?

I'll eat as much crow as possible.

Did not see this coming and I am pretty excited about it.

[racinsooner]

In 2011, Oklahoma was 4th is YPG (532), 10th in points per game (40.3), and 5th in 1st downs per game (26.8)
In 2012, Oklahoma was 10th in YPG (506), 12th in ppg (40.3), and 9th in 1st downs per game (27.3)

Meaning since Josh took over, they are averaging over 500 yards per game, over 40 points per game and are obviously sustaining drives and moving the ball as well as anyone in football with 27 first downs a game. All of this with a QB that most of you have wanted gone for 4 years, no TE, and what most would consider a sub-par o-line. The last time offense was a problem in Norman was 2006 and we all know the circumstances behind that. I agree that they need to run the football better, and obviously they think so to with the staff changes, and Josh needs to improve on some things but he's doing a fine job and will continue to improve on play calling with experience.

[Sooner 4 Life]

In 2011, Oklahoma was 4th is YPG (532), 10th in points per game (40.3), and 5th in 1st downs per game (26.8)
In 2012, Oklahoma was 10th in YPG (506), 12th in ppg (40.3), and 9th in 1st downs per game (27.3)

Meaning since Josh took over, they are averaging over 500 yards per game, over 40 points per game and are obviously sustaining drives and moving the ball as well as anyone in football with 27 first downs a game. All of this with a QB that most of you have wanted gone for 4 years, no TE, and what most would consider a sub-par o-line. The last time offense was a problem in Norman was 2006 and we all know the circumstances behind that. I agree that they need to run the football better, and obviously they think so to with the staff changes, and Josh needs to improve on some things but he's doing a fine job and will continue to improve on play calling with experience.

You don't get it do you? We can't beat good defenses and will never win another nc will this offense.

[zcaa0g]

In 2011, Oklahoma was 4th is YPG (532), 10th in points per game (40.3), and 5th in 1st downs per game (26.8)
In 2012, Oklahoma was 10th in YPG (506), 12th in ppg (40.3), and 9th in 1st downs per game (27.3)

Meaning since Josh took over, they are averaging over 500 yards per game, over 40 points per game and are obviously sustaining drives and moving the ball as well as anyone in football with 27 first downs a game. All of this with a QB that most of you have wanted gone for 4 years, no TE, and what most would consider a sub-par o-line. The last time offense was a problem in Norman was 2006 and we all know the circumstances behind that. I agree that they need to run the football better, and obviously they think so to with the staff changes, and Josh needs to improve on some things but he's doing a fine job and will continue to improve on play calling with experience.

Now run the numbers when the Sooners face any defense ranked in the Top 50. The offensive line hasn't been sub-par, it's just been great at p****-blocking and atrocious at run-blocking, which basically makes them average.

The biggest thing Coach Heupel needs to do is pick a tempo. Either execute a normal tempo or an up tempo, but don't change them up right in the middle of the series. More times than not, that has led to OU punting the football. When they stick with either a normal tempo or an up tempo for an entire series, they usually score.

This up-coming season will be a critical one for Coach Heupel. He needs to make sure the Sooner offense doesn't disappear as it did in the KSU, ND and ATM games.

[racinsooner]

Well I guess we have a different outlook on things, I believe I do get it. I stated that they need to run the ball more effectively, but I see no reason they couldn't win a NC with this offense. I don't think they can win one with the defense they've been playing though. What kind of offense do you think they could have ran this past season in order to win it all? You think they could have won it this year running the same offense but replace the Defense with say 2001 D? Yeah, I'm the one who doesn't get it.

Some of you people are absolutely clueless about the game. In your bizzaro world, scoring 40 a game and have 500 yards of offense isn't good enough. You're probably the same group who ****ed about Switzer's offenses because he gave the ball to the fullback to much.

[racinsooner]

Now run the numbers when the Sooners face any defense ranked in the Top 50. The offensive line hasn't been sub-par, it's just been great at p****-blocking and atrocious at run-blocking, which basically makes them average.

The biggest thing Coach Heupel needs to do is pick a tempo. Either execute a normal tempo or an up tempo, but don't change them up right in the middle of the series. More times than not, that has led to OU punting the football. When they stick with either a normal tempo or an up tempo for an entire series, they usually score.

This up-coming season will be a critical one for Coach Heupel. He needs to make sure the Sooner offense doesn't disappear as it did in the KSU, ND and ATM games.

I agree with the tempo statement, that is one of the things I think he needs to improve on. The other is QB run game, now that we will have a QB that is capable of creating problems with his feet, he really needs to incorporate it into the offense, and I think he will.

[gratefulRed]

fify

what's with this profile pic of our new coach?!? He looks like he just got caught jerking it off.

[SoonerBounce]

Heupel's offense is nowhere near "balanced"......good God, we were throwing it 70 times a game at the end of the season. Heupel's problem is that he does not have an offensive philosophy

you need to go back and look at the stats. we were right where we need to be in terms of %'s of plays called...we just weren't good enough running the ball

[soonerbldr]

Heupel's offense is nowhere near "balanced"......good God, we were throwing it 70 times a game at the end of the season. Heupel's problem is that he does not have an offensive philosophy

Because our O-Line was a triage unit and couldn't open a hole for a mack truck.

[barlowd]

In 2011, Oklahoma was 4th is YPG (532), 10th in points per game (40.3), and 5th in 1st downs per game (26.8)
In 2012, Oklahoma was 10th in YPG (506), 12th in ppg (40.3), and 9th in 1st downs per game (27.3)

Meaning since Josh took over, they are averaging over 500 yards per game, over 40 points per game and are obviously sustaining drives and moving the ball as well as anyone in football with 27 first downs a game. All of this with a QB that most of you have wanted gone for 4 years, no TE, and what most would consider a sub-par o-line. The last time offense was a problem in Norman was 2006 and we all know the circumstances behind that. I agree that they need to run the football better, and obviously they think so to with the staff changes, and Josh needs to improve on some things but he's doing a fine job and will continue to improve on play calling with experience.

What was our redzone TD %?

[Sooners2007]

I'll eat as much crow as possible.

Did not see this coming and I am pretty excited about it.

Depends on who he brings in, for me at least

[GRIDIRON]

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m...ing_staff.html
Interesting they still have Kittle and Shipp on the staff page, but they didn't mess around getting Patton off that page

[BULLDOGSOONER]

Because our O-Line was a triage unit and couldn't open a hole for a mack truck.

Mack Truck???? Try a ****ing tricycle.

[greensooner]

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m...ing_staff.html
Interesting they still have Kittle and Shipp on the staff page, but they didn't mess around getting Patton off that page

prob b/c Patton had been interviewing for jobs and had accepted one when they announced he was gone

Shipp was just yesterday on the announcement and Kittle will remain as part of the recruiting staff

[ousooner_4]

Because our O-Line was a triage unit and couldn't open a hole for a mack truck.

I totally agree with you, but it still doesn't mean that we were balanced

[Trip]

LOL wow, are people really trying to blame all of our offensive problems on Landry Jones?

An inability to run block and a defense that couldn't keep the offense off the the field had nothing to do with it. Hence, it must be Landry's fault.

[mightysooner]

Although Bob was maybe a bit late on pulling the trigger on some staff changes I imagine it is hard to do so after working with the same people for so long. I would think that anybody who has been involved in leadership roles has to go through something like this during their careers. Hopefully it is a lesson learned for him and won't be as hard to implement staff changes in the future if their is need to do so.

A little late???? He's about 4 years too late.

I'm sorry but being the boss means you have to fire people. It's part of the job, and sometimes its people you like. Perhaps he shouldn't pack his staff with buddies he doesn't have the sack to fire when they underperform. That's a very basic, elementary leadership principle.

Saban doesn't go through issues with complacency, underperformance, and nepotism. Saban has won 3 national titles in 4 years. The blueprint for Bob is clear. He needs to stop fighting the fans and the media to protect his internal status quo and embrace the giantness of the program he heads of his own free will, as well as the expectations that come with it, instead of trying to lower the bar of expectations to just beating Texas and winning the conference. Sorry.....this is Oklahoma. We don't lower the bar here and we certainly don't proudly claim "co-championships" or embarr**** ourselves on national TV every season in bowl games because we don't take bowl games seriously and view them as a "scrimmages".

This has all been a good step in the right direction. We hope Stoops is awake now, ready to return the program to excellence, and we wish him well and support him.

[OU812]

Bobs making needed changes. It's very important to hire quality coaches and upgrade the talent & coaching. I'm ready to forget the last few yrs and move forward. Hopefully, we get some great coaches and can move back into the nations elite.

[mightysooner]

Right, because Stoops, Joe, and Boren listen to the fans.

Not saying they have an ear to the pavement in fanworld but it's funny how when the fans start to get irate, heads always roll. Happened with Long...happened with Wilson....happened with Venables......and has now happened with these latest clowns after fan insurrection yet again. And yes, donors are fans; fans who write checks. Who pays the bills for the entire football program through tickets and merch sales as well as donations? Fans.

[racinsooner]

What was our redzone TD %?

They were 11th in the country in RZ% at 91% with 67 trips (which ranked Top 10), 46 TD's (69%), 15 FG.

By Comparison, OSU was 4th at 93% with 72 trips, 48 TD's (67%), 19 FG.

Alabama was 13th at 90% with 62 trips, 46 TD's (74%), 10 FG.

Anyone wanting to fire either one of those coordinators???? Of course not, one got a Head Coaching gig (Monken), one will in a year or two (Nussmeier).

[Boomer.....]

http://www.soonersports.com/sports/m...ing_staff.html
Interesting they still have Kittle and Shipp on the staff page, but they didn't mess around getting Patton off that page

OU hasn't officially released a statement saying the two have been let go yet.

[Mr. Pink]

Now run the numbers when the Sooners face any defense ranked in the Top 50. The offensive line hasn't been sub-par, it's just been great at p****-blocking and atrocious at run-blocking, which basically makes them average.

The biggest thing Coach Heupel needs to do is pick a tempo. Either execute a normal tempo or an up tempo, but don't change them up right in the middle of the series. More times than not, that has led to OU punting the football. When they stick with either a normal tempo or an up tempo for an entire series, they usually score.

This up-coming season will be a critical one for Coach Heupel. He needs to make sure the Sooner offense doesn't disappear as it did in the KSU, ND and ATM games.

Probably wouldn't be wise to do up-tempo all the time because up-tempo works better at various points in the game (Chip Kelly, 2012). Kelly understands that you can't go super fast all the time. It's most effective when you go up-tempo strategically.

[GRIDIRON]

prob b/c Patton had been interviewing for jobs and had accepted one when they announced he was gone

Shipp was just yesterday on the announcement and Kittle will remain as part of the recruiting staff

Yeah that makes sense. One reason I brought this up is because I don't recall seeing anything official from OU in regards to Kittle or Shipp. All I've seen are reports by the Tulsa World and local sports on the news.

[greensooner]

Yeah that makes sense. One reason I brought this up is because I don't recall seeing anything official from OU in regards to Kittle or Shipp. All I've seen are reports by the Tulsa World and local sports on the news.

sure would be nice to retain both of them as part of the new recruiting staff...pretty sure Kittle will be but the chances Shipp would do that are low

he will want to coach and will be a sought after commodity if not this year, next year

[SoonerBounce]

OU hasn't officially released a statement saying the two have been let go yet.

link?

So kittle isn't just changing roles?

[Adrian]

OU hasn't officially released a statement saying the two have been let go yet.

link?

So kittle isn't just changing roles?

How can he post a link if OU hasn't released a statement yet?

[SoonerBounce]

How can he post a link if OU hasn't released a statement yet?

i misread it, my bad

[Sooner 76]

Not saying they have an ear to the pavement in fanworld but it's funny how when the fans start to get irate, heads always roll. Happened with Long...happened with Wilson....happened with Venables......and has now happened with these latest clowns after fan insurrection yet again. And yes, donors are fans; fans who write checks. Who pays the bills for the entire football program through tickets and merch sales as well as donations? Fans.

Those coaches were not clowns, ok maybe Kittle is. People like you are the clowns; people who scream to fire all the coaches any time a game is lost, or the clowns who blame Landry with OU gives up 45 pts, but scores 38.