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    I wonder how close they actually got before getting intercepted. I have a hard time believing that they made into that airspace unnoticed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster06 View Post
    I wonder how close they actually got before getting intercepted. I have a hard time believing that they made into that airspace unnoticed.
    Weren't they doinking around off the Cali coast in a sub not too long ago too?

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    Lol... first off, nice headline... They are turboprops, not jets...

    I guess this is a story. But, those bombers would be destroyed the instant we wanted them destroyed if they didn't have some other air support. It would be the equivalent of floating a couple of helium balloons in from of some duck hunters as a show of force.

    The only way this is really a big story is if we didn't know they were there until we had visual range on them... which could be a possibility, but it's not stated in the article. Not to mention that any type of stealth aircraft kind of defeats the purpose if you can HEAR the engines before they even get to you. lol

    Strange story...
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    This really isn't a new thing for the Russians. This has been going on since the Cold War. They send their bombers towards our airspace, we intercept them with fighters, a little foreign relations (you know, flipping them the bird) takes place between the aircrews, and they're then escorted it of our airspace and they go home. It's like a game. Anyone who thinks that just because the Soviet Union fell and the Russians are now our friends is sadly mistaken.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster06 View Post
    This really isn't a new thing for the Russians. This has been going on since the Cold War. They send their bombers towards our airspace, we intercept them with fighters, a little foreign relations (you know, flipping them the bird) takes place between the aircrews, and they're then escorted it of our airspace and they go home. It's like a game. Anyone who thinks that just because the Soviet Union fell and the Russians are now our friends is sadly mistaken.
    Our Navy and China play a particularly fun game of marco/polo with submarines on a pretty regular basis.

    And yes, Russia is still most definitely a staunch enemy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeLucky View Post
    Our Navy and China play a particularly fun game of marco/polo with submarines on a pretty regular basis.

    And yes, Russia is still most definitely a staunch enemy.
    Does China have any subs worth a ****?

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    Does China have any subs worth a ****?
    Navies around the world are reincorporating conventional subs into their inventories, mainly due to cost, new technology, and noise generation. China operates Kilo-cl**** diesel-electric subs which are damn good boats. They're also making their own SSNs, but their current boats are fairly noisy compared to our latest subs, more along the lines of first generation 688s. In 10 years they'll be making ships and subs that will be on par with what we make.

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    Quote Originally Posted by okie52 View Post
    Does China have any subs worth a ****?
    Chinese subs look very similar to American subs but then they fall apart in less than a year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bushmaster06 View Post
    Navies around the world are reincorporating conventional subs into their inventories, mainly due to cost, new technology, and noise generation. China operates Kilo-cl**** diesel-electric subs which are damn good boats. They're also making their own SSNs, but their current boats are fairly noisy compared to our latest subs, more along the lines of first generation 688s. In 10 years they'll be making ships and subs that will be on par with what we make.
    I wouldn't doubt China's advancement in developing their sub or surface fleet. They have certainly been hacking our DOD often enough. What I doubt is their lack of naval history to guide them in having well trained crews and training centers that would be comparable to those in the US and other long standing navies.

    But I really have no idea if that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsooner View Post
    Chinese subs look very similar to American subs but then they fall apart in less than a year.
    Heh, heh.

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    this thread is useless with out pics.

    Russian bombers have big engines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OUSchitzo View Post
    this thread is useless with out pics.

    Russian bombers have big engines.
    I live on Guam and this wasn't that big of a deal to us. Like a previous poster said, there are a lot of incidents where someone tries to test another country's airspace.

    But their long range bombers have props instead of jet engines like ours.

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    Unit I was in used to tag these guys then guide East Coast fighters to shadow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sooner68 View Post
    I live on Guam and this wasn't that big of a deal to us. Like a previous poster said, there are a lot of incidents where someone tries to test another country's airspace.

    But their long range bombers have props instead of jet engines like ours.
    Tupolev Tu-22M and Tu-160.

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