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    Uniform History of Sooner QBs. Now this is an area where ranking could get interesting.

    Rank your top ten QBs from what you have seen.

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    1. Jake Sills
    2. Patrick Fletcher
    3.


    **** everyone else
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    Passers - 1. Sam Bradford
    Wishbone - 1. Jack Mildren

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    Originally Posted by HeroOfTheDay View Post
    Passers - 1. Sam Bradford
    Wishbone - 1. Jack Mildren
    You look pretty young to have seen Mildren.

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    As I am only 24, 1Sam Bradford, 2Landry Jones,3 Paul Thompson. Those were the only three I've seen live. The gap between 1 and 2 is huge too.

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    Damn. I was actually just thinking about starting a thread on this.

    Some of the guys on this list I was not old enough to see/remember playing but I'll include them anyway.

    1. Sam Bradford- The best pure pocket passer in OU history and obviously a Heisman Trophy winner.
    2. Jimmy Harris- The guy went 25-0 as a starter during the 47 game win streak and won 2 National Championships in 1955 and 1956.
    3. Steve Davis- He went 33-1-1 as a starter and won 2 National Championships as well in 1974 and 1975.
    4. Jamelle Holieway- Probably the fastest quarterback we've ever had (one could debate that with Charles Thompson), won National Championship in 1985, the ankle kept him from
    winning OU another title in 1987.
    5. Jason White- Obviously he won the Heisman Trophy but was a great passer and nearly brought us 2 National Championships. He led what, in my opinion, was the greatest
    regular season team in college football history (the 2003 team).
    6. Jack Mildren- Switzer installed the wishbone and Jack was the first one to run it and he ran it to perfection. Almost won a title in 1971 and he led an offense that set
    multiple national records that will never be broken.
    7. Landry Jones- People all have their opinions but Landry has all of the school records for passing. He wasn't perfect by any means
    but he was overall a very good quarterback. Maybe it was the system but the guy still won us 3 bowl games and 39 overall.
    8. Josh Heupel- Josh wasn't perfect either but Heupel just had the "it" factor. He was a great leader and of course brought us the title in 2000.
    9. J.C. Watts- Great quarterback during the Switzer years. Really you could put either J.C. or Thomas Lott in this spot.
    10. Claude Arnold- Great quarterback under Wilkinson and brought OU its first National Championship in 1950.
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    Originally Posted by HeroOfTheDay View Post
    Passers - 1. Sam Bradford
    Wishbone - 1. Jack Mildren
    We have a winner!

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    Offseason sucks.

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    Landry Jones? Heck id put Troy Aikman or even Cale over Landry
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    QB's option
    Jamelel Hollieway NC period
    Steve Collins

    QB Pro
    Josh Heupel NC period
    Sam Bradford
    Landry Jones
    Jason White
    Nate Hybl
    Cale Gundy
    Rhett Bomar
    Paul Thompson

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    Ah so, mutha fucka.

    I'm voting for Bobby Warmack. Just 'cuz his nickname was "the wicked worm."
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    1. Jason White
    2. Sam Bradford
    3. Josh Heupel
    4. Nate Hybl
    5. Landry Jones
    6. Cale Gundy
    7. Paul Thompson
    8. Justin Fuente
    9. Patrick Fletcher

    List currently ends at 9.

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    Originally Posted by StiffArmTrophy View Post
    You look pretty young to have seen Mildren.
    Didn't have too see him to know how great he was

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    Originally Posted by Whisker Biscuits View Post
    1. Jake Sills
    2. Patrick Fletcher
    3.


    **** everyone else
    I can't help but to think that you had some glaring omissions.












    Mainly.....


    3. Jarrod Reese
    4.Chris Melson






    .
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    Jimmy H.
    Jamelle H
    Jack M
    Thomas L
    Sam B
    Steve D
    Jason W
    Josh H
    Landry J
    Bobby W

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    1. Jason White
    2. Sam Bradford
    3. Josh Heupel
    4. Nate Hybl
    5. Landry Jones
    6. Cale Gundy
    7. Paul Thompson
    8. Justin Fuente
    9. Patrick Fletcher

    List currently ends at 9.
    Laughing about Gundy..

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    Originally Posted by boomermagic View Post
    Laughing about Gundy..
    After about the top 5 it goes way down hill. Seriously our QBs from about 94-99 were all god awful.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    After about the top 5 it goes way down hill. Seriously our QBs from about 94-99 were all god awful.
    True.. So was our team..

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    Originally Posted by StiffArmTrophy View Post
    As I am only 24, 1Sam Bradford, 2Landry Jones,3 Paul Thompson. Those were the only three I've seen live. The gap between 1 and 2 is huge too.
    Wut and wut.

    Originally Posted by Filthy View Post
    I can't help but to think that you had some glaring omissions.

    Mainly.....


    3. Jarrod Reese
    4.Chris Melson
    .
    What about Eric Moore? I can still hear my dad ****ing about him.

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    10 is too many - too big of generational gap. Here's my 5.

    1. Sam B.
    2. Jamelle H.
    3. Josh H.
    4. Thomas L.
    5. Jason W.

    If we could ever find a QB that was a combination of any runner/passer on the list, I'd be happy.

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    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Josh Heupel
    4. Nate Hybl
    5. Landry Jones-Paul Thompson tie
    6. Joey Halzle (TTech game)

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    After about the top 5 it goes way down hill. Seriously our QBs from about 94-99 were all god awful.

    Garrick McGee was prettty solid and Eric Moore was atleast serviceable. And by serviceable...I mean better than whoever else was available.

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    Eric Moore was awful. Fuente was probably the most talented of the Schnelly/Blake guys. McGee wasn't horrible. Fletcher made plays in a few games which is more than you can say for most of the QBs in that era. But even Bomar who couldn't handle snaps at OU was probably better than any of the QBs of the 90s. I just can't put Bomar in a top 10 of QBs when he couldn't even handle snaps, and was a turnover machine.

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    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Steve Davis
    4. Blake Bell
    5. Nate Hybl
    6. Jimmy Harris
    7. Jack Mildren
    8. Josh Heupel
    9. Jamelle Holieway
    10. Dean Blevins (I kid, I kid)

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    Joey Halzle >>>>> Rhett Bomar
    Halzle's shining moment in the sun, The 07 Tech game, was by far greater than any moment Rhett ever had.

    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Josh Heuple
    4. Jamelle Hollieway
    5. Charles Thompson
    6. Landry Jones
    7. Danny Bradley
    8. Eric Mitchel
    9. Nate Hybl
    10. Cale Gundy

    My earliest memory of an OU QB is Kelly Phelps. I remember when JC Watts was the QB but I didn't watch the games then, I was 8 or so. I wish I could put the 70's QB's in my list but, I'm just not old enough.
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    1. Steve Davis

    2. Jamelle Holieway

    3. Sam Bradford

    4. Jason White

    5. Jack Mildren

    6. Charles Thompson

    7. Thomas Lott

    8. Josh Heupel

    9. J.C. Watts

    10. Danny Bradley
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    1 Bradford
    2. Heupel
    3. Hollieway
    4. White
    5. Charles Thompson
    6. Landry
    7. Thompson
    8. Bradley
    9. McGee
    10. Gundy

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    Originally Posted by Stein7495 View Post
    Damn. I was actually just thinking about starting a thread on this.

    Some of the guys on this list I was not old enough to see/remember playing but I'll include them anyway.

    1. Sam Bradford- The best pure pocket passer in OU history and obviously a Heisman Trophy winner.
    2. Jimmy Harris- The guy went 25-0 as a starter during the 47 game win streak and won 2 National Championships in 1955 and 1956.
    3. Steve Davis- He went 33-1-1 as a starter and won 2 National Championships as well in 1974 and 1975.
    4. Jamelle Holieway- Probably the fastest quarterback we've ever had (one could debate that with Charles Thompson), won National Championship in 1985, the ankle kept him from
    winning OU another title in 1987.
    5. Jason White- Obviously he won the Heisman Trophy but was a great passer and nearly brought us 2 National Championships. He led what, in my opinion, was the greatest
    regular season team in college football history (the 2003 team).
    6. Jack Mildren- Switzer installed the wishbone and Jack was the first one to run it and he ran it to perfection. Almost won a title in 1971 and he led an offense that set
    multiple national records that will never be broken.
    7. Landry Jones- People all have their opinions but Landry has all of the school records for passing. He wasn't perfect by any means
    but he was overall a very good quarterback. Maybe it was the system but the guy still won us 3 bowl games and 39 overall.
    8. Josh Heupel- Josh wasn't perfect either but Heupel just had the "it" factor. He was a great leader and of course brought us the title in 2000.
    9. J.C. Watts- Great quarterback during the Switzer years. Really you could put either J.C. or Thomas Lott in this spot.
    10. Claude Arnold- Great quarterback under Wilkinson and brought OU its first National Championship in 1950.
    As an outsider I always had more fear of Heupel than White. White to me was like a lot of pedestrian guys who look good when they are protected but look horrendous under pressure. Compared to Heupel who could ad lib much better and was just as accurate it's no contest.

    Don't give me the stat argument. Unless Heuepl was throwing to 3-4 NFL wideouts and handing off to A.D while being protected by Jammal Brown & Davin Joseph it really isn't apples to apples.

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    Sam. ******.Davis.Lott.Jamelle. HeupPT.JC el.Mildren.Bradley.

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    In my lifetime...

    1. Jamelle
    2. Sam
    3. Josh
    4. Jason
    5. Thomas Lott
    6. Nate
    7. Landry
    8. Danny Bradley
    9. Cale Gundy
    10. Charles Thompson

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    Originally Posted by S11-Baylor View Post
    As an outsider I always had more fear of Heupel than White. White to me was like a lot of pedestrian guys who look good when they are protected but look horrendous under pressure. Compared to Heupel who could ad lib much better and was just as accurate it's no contest.

    Don't give me the stat argument. Unless Heuepl was throwing to 3-4 NFL wideouts and handing off to A.D while being protected by Jammal Brown & Davin Joseph it really isn't apples to apples.
    True. Heupel didn't have as many weapons as White did. However, I still give White the benefit of the doubt. What I think a lot of people appreciate is the fact that he changed his game up from more of an option guy to a pocket passer after two knee operations. White also threw a great deep ball.

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    Was Jay Jimerson the QB that played against Ohio State when Von Schamann won it with his last-minute FG?

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    Originally Posted by SoonerDick View Post
    Rank your top ten QBs from what you have seen.

    Another exciting offseason.

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    Originally Posted by 3xt View Post
    Was Jay Jimerson the QB that played against Ohio State when Von Schamann won it with his last-minute FG?
    No. It was Thomas Lott.

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    Originally Posted by Stein7495 View Post
    True. Heupel didn't have as many weapons as White did. However, I still give White the benefit of the doubt. What I think a lot of people appreciate is the fact that he changed his game up from more of an option guy to a pocket passer after two knee operations. White also threw a great deep ball.
    I'm not saying White was a bad QB but I feel like OU does far better against USC & LSU's defenses than White did and 2000 OU doesn't sniff a title with White instead of Heupel.

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    Dean Blevins was awesome.

    He played quarterback on the Associated Press national championship Oklahoma Sooners football teams in 1974 and 1975 and on four Big 8 Conference championship teams from 1974-77. In 1975, he won the Jay Meyer award as the top scholar athlete at OU

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    Chrissy Simms might as well be a Sooner QB as he won us more games than many QB's that wore the crimson and cream.

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    Originally Posted by SoonerLibertarian View Post
    After about the top 5 it goes way down hill. Seriously our QBs from about 94-99 were all god awful.
    I think it had as much to do with coaching as it did talent.

    Justin Fuentes was talented.
    Garrick McGee was talented.
    Brandon Daniels would have done very well at Nebraska or any option offense that knew anything about option football.

    Seems like coaching was a bigger issue than talent.

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    I loved Jamelle (in fact he was my favorite 'bone QB) but he was never the fastest QB on his own team. What he was was stout. If you tried to arm tackle him, he was likely to run through it. Both CT & Mitchel were both considerably faster, but if you could get a bead on them, they usually went down.

    FWIW, I remember listening to a Switzer interview a few years back, & FWIW, he said that when it came to running the triple option, Holieway was his best best by a considerable margin. He said that in JH's entire time at OU, he made 1 wrong read in all the times it was called (in the '88 USC loss).

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    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Jamelle Holiway
    4. Josh Heupel
    5. Charles Thompson
    6. Landry Jones
    7. Brandon Daniels
    8. Nate Hybl
    9. Patrick Fletcher
    10. Paul Thompson

    I think that's my list. I don't claim Troy Aikman or he would be on this list...

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    Originally Posted by Oklahomey View Post
    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Steve Davis
    4. Blake Bell
    5. Nate Hybl
    6. Jimmy Harris
    7. Jack Mildren
    8. Josh Heupel
    9. Jamelle Holieway
    10. Dean Blevins (I kid, I kid)

    ????????

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    Originally Posted by OUrage View Post
    Dean Blevins was awesome.

    He played quarterback on the Associated Press national championship Oklahoma Sooners football teams in 1974 and 1975 and on four Big 8 Conference championship teams from 1974-77. In 1975, he won the Jay Meyer award as the top scholar athlete at OU
    We might have had a shot that one year had he not gotten the....mmmmm..."mumps".

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    Originally Posted by eightisgreat View Post
    10 is too many - too big of generational gap. Here's my 5.

    1. Sam B.
    2. Jamelle H.
    3. Josh H.
    4. Thomas L.
    5. Jason W.

    If we could ever find a QB that was a combination of any runner/passer on the list, I'd be happy.


    JC Watts had more passing yards than rushing at OU. Then threw for over 12,000 yds in the CFL

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    Originally Posted by Oklahomey View Post
    1. Sam Bradford
    2. Jason White
    3. Steve Davis
    4. Blake Bell
    5. Nate Hybl
    6. Jimmy Harris
    7. Jack Mildren
    8. Josh Heupel
    9. Jamelle Holieway
    10. Dean Blevins (I kid, I kid)
    I hope you are kidding having Blake Bell & Nate Hybl over Harris, Mildren, Heupel & Holieway

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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    Wut and wut.



    What about Eric Moore? I can still hear my dad ****ing about him.
    I did since I have been able to go to games. I'm a young one.

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    Originally Posted by StiffArmTrophy View Post
    I did since I have been able to go to games. I'm a young one.
    You'll have to tolerate us old as ****ing dirt guys.

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    Originally Posted by KCRuf/Nek View Post
    ????????
    I think he's joking. But if not, Hybl should be off the list. Bell should be off the list. Holieway and Mildren should both be higher.

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    Originally Posted by OUrage View Post
    Dean Blevins was awesome.

    He played quarterback on the Associated Press national championship Oklahoma Sooners football teams in 1974 and 1975 and on four Big 8 Conference championship teams from 1974-77. In 1975, he won the Jay Meyer award as the top scholar athlete at OU
    I wanted to put Blevins on my list because his QB rating was high enough to get him in the top 6 but he threw for less than 50 yards a game (my memory of Blevin's was all good. I don't know why everyone here treats him the way that they do). Holieway barely made it on my list with 55 ypg. A guy from 70-72 that most people haven't heard of, Dave Robertson had the 3rd best QB rating but again, only threw for 37 ypg. Although these guys were great field generals with high QB ratings, there has to be a line where they are considered a RB and not a QB. I'd like to see top passer at the top of these lists so it's not so conusing with the history that we've had running the wishbone and split t veer offenses. It's not really fair to list a guy as a top RB and then turn around and list him as a top QB. I guess someone needs to start a list where the criteria is total offensive production. I saw a lot of big name receivers with outrageous YPC numbers when looking at RB numbers. George Cumby was a good RB with 9 ypc before moving to the defensive side of the ball. He didn't get enough carries to make a list.

    Here's my list of Quarterbacks with at least 55 yards per game from 1970-2012 from the era that I've watched (or listened to) Oklahoma football. Well since 1968.

    RK NAME.............. PASS COMP COMP% YARDS TDS INT YDS-G RATING
    01 Sam Bradford...... `893 `604 67.6% `8403 `88 `16 271.1 175.62
    02 Jason White....... `988 `626 63.4% `7913 `81 `24 193.0 152.83
    03 Jamelle Holieway.. `224 `102 45.5% `2154 `23 `12 `55.2 149.48
    04 Jack Mildren...... `174 ``85 48.9% `1696 `17 `13 `77.1 148.03
    05 Landry Jones...... 2183 1388 63.6% 16646 123 `52 320.1 141.46
    06 Paul Thompson..... `409 `246 60.1% `3095 `25 `15 `81.4 136.55
    07 Steve Davis....... `215 ``86 40.0% `2036 `21 `17 `59.9 135.96
    08 Josh Heupel....... `972 `615 63.3% `7066 `50 `30 294.4 135.14
    09 Cale Gundy........ `751 `420 55.9% `6142 `35 `31 139.6 131.75
    10 Nate Hybl......... `759 `440 58.0% `4916 `40 `23 129.4 123.71

    11 Danny Bradley..... `290 `137 47.2% `2240 `15 `15 `67.9 118.85
    12 Rhett Bomar....... `308 `167 54.2% `2018 `10 `10 168.2 113.48
    13 Justin Fuente..... `325 `160 49.2% `2289 `10 `18 114.5 107.47
    14 Garrick McGee..... `377 `195 51.7% `2449 `11 `19 116.6 105.84
    15 Eric Moore........ `393 `168 42.7% `2675 `15 `20 `81.1 102.34


    Paul Thompson should probably be below Steve Davis (my favorite QB) and Josh Heupel but he's still one of my favorite QBs that I felt got screwed because the fans wanted Bomar and Stoops was too chickenshit (for lack of a better word) to make the right decision. They both sucked in that opening loss to TCU. Thompson was the players QB and Bomar was Stoops and the fans QB. Bomar was so enept against Tulsa that we ran the ball on every down of the second half against Tulsa for fear of getting embarassed against them also.

    Looking at Bradford and White's numbers which were good enough to get them a Heisman trophy pisses me off even more at Stoops for forcing LJ to throw the ball more than both of them combined and tossing the running game out the window. If we come out next year with this same old shit then I'm officially calling for his head. I'd like to get back to at least running the ball as much as we did with Bradford and White, if not more, now that we have QBs who can run the ball. We don't need to run the ball as much as we did with Holieway but...
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    Originally Posted by DarrellS011 View Post

    Looking at Bradford and White's numbers which were good enough to get them a Heisman trophy pisses me off even more at Stoops for forcing LJ to throw the ball more than both of them combined and tossing the running game out the window. If we come out next year with this same old shit then I'm officially calling for his head. I'd like to get back to at least running the ball as much as we did with Bradford and White, if not more, now that we have QBs who can run the ball. We don't need to run the ball as much as we did with Holieway but...
    The direction we've gone has made the o-line very soft. I agree completely. We've abandoned the running game, a trademark for Oklahoma football for generations. Even 4 years ago, I would have never thought I'd see OU run the ball so little. Landry threw 71 times against Oklahoma State. You know there's a problem if your quarterback is throwing 71 times. A quarterback shouldn't throw 71 times in 4 OTs. We went to OT vs. OSU but Jones didn't throw a pass. SMH at the lack of run game.

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    Originally Posted by Drake View Post
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    JC Watts had more passing yards than rushing at OU. Then threw for over 12,000 yds in the CFL
    I couldn't believe that but he did only have 1342 yards rushing. A great field general, running the wishbone.

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